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 on: Today at 12:47:10 AM 
Started by Ashe Isadora - Last post by Firesong
Anybody familiar with the Ritual of the Raven in association with the Hedge tradition?

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 on: Today at 12:39:06 AM 
Started by Draconis Rex - Last post by Alchymist
Interesting how the church puts the blame for all the bad things that happen on the women ?.

Most Judaic sects and many of the Christian churches - not to mention much of Islam - are, and seemingly always have been, heavily misogynistic. There has been a vast amount of argument as to the reasons for this - accompanied by a lot of shrill rhetoric, unfortunately - but a big part of it seems to have been the problem of paternity. Many men were, and are, very concerned about whether the children their wives presented them with were really theirs ....

What's really interesting about the Garden of Eden story, though, is that the Serpent chose to tell Eve, rather than Adam, the truth about the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and that Adam had to receive the news at second-hand, so to speak. It is as if the knowledge had to pass through the female mind before the male (Adam) could make use of it, or even be aware of it.

There's an interesting parallel to this in Frank Herbert's epic SF novel "Dune". After Paul Atreides and his mother Jessica meet up with the Fremen, it is Jessica who must fist drink the "Water of the Maker", Shai-Hulud, and, using her inner awareness (she is Bene Gesserit trained an thus, in Dune terms, a Witch) transform the Water from its initial, poisonous state into the consciousness-altering Water of Life that the rest of the tribe can then drink.

I'm not sure if Herbert was aware of this parallel, but I think he must have been. The parallels between Paul, who became Muad'Dib, and Jesus (Yeshua), who became Christ, are too numerous to be an accident.

Blessed Be everyone,

Alchymist.

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 on: Today at 12:36:49 AM 
Started by Draconis Rex - Last post by Firesong
Yes and did not the church sucker the Romans to do their bidding and spread the worlds first pandemic which still effects so many with their words of fear if you don't obey totally .

Wonder why Adam was not made to leave when his first wife did a bail out .

Interesting how the church puts the blame for all the bad things that happen on the women ?.

Well, sure... it eliminates the entire priesthood from blame... :-p

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 on: Today at 12:28:46 AM 
Started by Ashe Isadora - Last post by oldghost
What most people calla Hedgewitch is not what they wish to be called , since many of them are just herbalist and like to be called Wise Women or Cunning Men . In America you'll find at lease 70% in the Appalachian Mountains . If it were not for this Wise and Cunning people a lot more people would die ( they don't trust them modern doctors ) . Most Wise Women are also Midwifes .

Forgot this , Marisol are this the authors you where talking about        'Claudia Muller Ebeling  & Christian Ratsch ' ?.

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 on: Today at 12:12:36 AM 
Started by Ashe Isadora - Last post by Alchymist
Words have many different meanings. I used the term "hedgewitch" to mean a country witch, a village wise woman or cunning man, skilled in herbalism and simple charms and potions. Anyway .... it's just one of the things I'm not. I know very little about herbs, and I have great respect for those who make it a specialty.

Just to clear up any confusion......

Alchymist.

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 on: Today at 12:07:04 AM 
Started by Draconis Rex - Last post by oldghost
Yes and did not the church sucker the Romans to do their bidding and spread the worlds first pandemic which still effects so many with their words of fear if you don't obey totally .

Wonder why Adam was not made to leave when his first wife did a bail out .

Interesting how the church puts the blame for all the bad things that happen on the women ?.

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 on: March 27, 2015, 10:39:38 PM 
Started by Draconis Rex - Last post by Firesong
I don't really think it's about good and evil, because I don't see them as polar opposites.  Rabbi David Cooper talks about the Garden of Eden paradigm as an allegory, where the snake is a catalyst in man's acquisition of free will. 

If all things were created by G-d, G-d created good and evil.  If that is so, there must be a reason and a time for each, with an appropriate lesson to be learned.  There is no rebellion in Heaven. 

Satan has his own role to play, concurrent with the will of G-d.  To me, Heaven is the state of being with G-d, and Hell is the state of being totally separated from G-d, and I don't believe that level of separation would be levied on anyone, no matter how heinous their crime.

Most of the punishment/reward stuff came in the fourth century, when the Romans tried to use it as a vehicle to conquer the world through the church.

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 on: March 27, 2015, 10:01:40 PM 
Started by Ashe Isadora - Last post by Firesong
I think you may both be right... they seem to me to be very similar metaphors for the same thing... one physical and one spiritual... experiencing two realities at once?

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 on: March 27, 2015, 04:51:20 PM 
Started by Ashe Isadora - Last post by Draconis Rex
Thanks H.
Nice to see you back with us. I hope now you are going to take some well earned time and give yourself a chance to improve? No more pushing things?

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 on: March 27, 2015, 03:49:45 PM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Valerie
I have enjoyed reading too Marisol and I've learned from it x

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