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 11 
 on: September 09, 2016, 12:14:03 AM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Alchymist
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How about a God/ess of sandblasting?   ;D


I suspect that Brigid already has that covered, since she's the Goddess of Smithcraft; back in pre-Christian times when the Pagan gods and goddesses were first being recognised, or discovered, or invented or whatever, smithcraft was perhaps the highest level of technology available to the humans of that era. Nowadays of course, Brigid's responsibilities cover all aspects of metalworking and indeed perhaps technology generally.

But perhaps she delegates responsibility for other specialties within technology to lesser deities? Perhaps there's a God of sandblasting, a Goddess of non-destructive testing, a God of open-hearth steelmaking, a Goddess of solid-state electronics?

Then there's Eris, the Goddess of chaos, confusion and bureaucracy, with perhaps a sub-specialty of computer programming. Certainly some of the fundamental principles of computer sciences seem to partake strongly of chaos and confusion ..... think of "There is always one more bug," and "The most destructive bug is the one you don't find until the software is installed on all your computers - and then the only way to debug it is by ripping apart the whole system....."

Eris is closely related to Murphy, the God of Whatever Can Go Wrong, Will; and the shadowy, nameless Goddess of Even Things That Can't Possibly Go Wrong, Will Still Go Wrong - And in the Most Destructive (And Expensive) Way Possible.

Blessed Be, and may the Gods and Goddesses not give you too much grief.

Alchymist

 12 
 on: September 08, 2016, 12:22:42 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Canis
How about a God/ess of sandblasting?   ;D

 13 
 on: September 08, 2016, 11:48:20 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by marisol
it's also important to note that many who practice witchcraft are solitary. To gain confidence in practice means a lifetime of study and learning.
One may start learning from curiosity and that is simply a want to learn, but if there is no follow up with study, learning and practice there is no
basis for living. Actually living the craft is when we become. This is all as Amber said. But if the want to become is strong enough no one has to be a genius to study witchcraft. I believe we are all academically able, to say some are not is limiting and judgmental and can turn away some who may not be confident enough to pursue study on their own. I believe in helping those who are solitary to continue in their study of witchcraft. Even if all they need is a kind word of encouragement.

 14 
 on: September 08, 2016, 06:09:52 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by Amberhawk
I guess what it comes down to is learning what it is to be one, and then start practicing it. When you practice, you become. Everyone has areas they are not exactly brilliant in when it comes to various skills of a witch. But if you start practicing regularly, daily, and living it... that is when you are.

I agree wholeheartedly !

Based on earlier chats elsewhere on this forum, when I was seeking out the details of what Wicca and Witchcraft are, as well as my own encounters with other seekers, it became clear that there is some degree of first encounter after witch 😊 one engages in what amounts to about the same as a three year degree -- obviously not everyone  is that academically able and a simple feeling in ones heart aught and healthy curiosity aught to be quite adequate

Do no harm
Peace
Shy dark

Well, no, not really. Wicca is a priesthood where as witchcraft is a practice. Being Wiccan does also incorporate the witchcraft but adds priestly duties to whichever deity or deities they follow.  Witches don't necessarily have to take up an entire priesthood mantel, just learn and study and practice the craft part.

 15 
 on: September 07, 2016, 04:26:10 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Draconis Rex
For my own part, I certainly have no desire to become a Godhead, and I imagine I speak for most of us all. However your point is about striving for that plain and I would certainly agree that we should all strive to be the best that we can be. For those who succeed to a greater degree, this may be perceived as a God complex, but only if the arrogance was to accompany that achievement.

The struggle to get there is what makes us better, not the achievement, so the struggle ever continues.

I can't say I agree with the concept of mortal becoming Deity, apart from the issues with omnipotence and omnipresence, I believe it could get pretty crowded and what would one become God/ess of anyway? most of the positions are filled.  ;)

 16 
 on: September 07, 2016, 07:53:17 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
I guess what it comes down to is learning what it is to be one, and then start practicing it. When you practice, you become. Everyone has areas they are not exactly brilliant in when it comes to various skills of a witch. But if you start practicing regularly, daily, and living it... that is when you are.

I agree wholeheartedly !

Based on earlier chats elsewhere on this forum, when I was seeking out the details of what Wicca and Witchcraft are, as well as my own encounters with other seekers, it became clear that there is some degree of first encounter after witch 😊 one engages in what amounts to about the same as a three year degree -- obviously not everyone  is that academically able and a simple feeling in ones heart aught and healthy curiosity aught to be quite adequate

Do no harm
Peace
Shy dark

 17 
 on: September 07, 2016, 05:48:52 AM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Mystik Witch
Speaking as a Pagan, what I find problematic is the notion that the gods are somehow on a higher spiiritual plane. To me, Paganism is a celebration of earth and the gods are extensions of this.  They're on another plane, but not necessarily a "higher" one.

I have to agree with you Ashe on this one. Being taught the Christian beliefs all my life. I have always been told God/ess are in the highest kingdom. Kingdom? Who said they are in a kingdom at all? What makes them more powerful them me? I agree, I don't remember everything I have been taught throughout all the lives I have had, but as I live so do I remember what I have already learned before. I believe I was and am a God/ess who has come to this game board to learn more lessons and help others learn theirs too. Upon learning these lessons, (or not), I will go back to the spirit world changed. Whether it is for good or to add the lessons I didn't learn here. These lessons are to be added the next life I am about to live. This is yet to be known. Still, I believe I am already a God/ess. Waiting for my game to be over so I can move on.

I hope this makes sense to others. The book Re-Member by Steve Rother helped me to understand as well as it cleared up a ton of things I had been thinking at the time.

Thanks for the discussion. It has made me think hard about my beliefs. BB! MW

 18 
 on: September 02, 2016, 02:27:18 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Ashe Isadora
Many people say "Thou art God/dess" before cakes and ale so to some this could be redundant. Especially if you perceive the deities as archetypes or projections of our own human qualities.

Speaking as a Pagan, what I find problematic is the notion that the gods are somehow on a higher spiiritual plane. To me, Paganism is a celebration of earth and the gods are extensions of this.  They're on another plane, but not necessarily a "higher" one, .

This is a great topic, but to me it reflects a more eastern or even Christian POV than my vision of Paganism can handle. 

YMMV



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 on: September 02, 2016, 12:51:58 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Nymree
This is hypothetical, and based purely on the idea that gods are ascended beings/mortals. We're assuming here that human beings are capable of ascending to godhood, which is where the discussion could come in.

My thoughts are, if ascension to this higher state is possible, and that is what (at least some) gods are, why shouldn't we strive for godhood? I can understand that arrogance is destructive, but in consideration of the whole concept surely it would make sense to work towards and encourage aspirations for godhood, rather than shunning the idea that mortals can become gods?

Then, you also have the whole "mad with power", god-complex issue. And I suppose just trying could be enough to drive someone mad.
But I often see or hear of the idea of striving for godhood shunned and seen as arrogance, rather than as a legitimate spiritual aspiration. But, why? I'm more curious as to why this aspiration would be a bad thing, other than for the previously listed reasons.

I'm not looking to become a god(dess), of course. It's just more of a shower thought. And I'm sorry that this discussion does make a few leaps and assumptions, but working with those in mind; what makes aspirations to godhood necessarily bad?

Blessed Be,

 - Nymree

 20 
 on: September 01, 2016, 11:30:47 AM 
Started by Alchymist - Last post by marisol
Congratulations Myranda. Sounds like a huge opportunity to help the community. Good luck.

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