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 on: January 24, 2016, 05:08:26 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
Bluedjango I believe that that you will find all of us are seekers here. But none of us walk the same path. Each path is personal, no one
reaches their destination in the same way or at the same time. What is most important to one, may not be to another. We are very
tolerant of each other in this respect. We may not agree at  times, but there is no right or wrong in our individual journeys.


Blessings

There us no point in discussion if there is no overlap or acknowledgment of a truthful thought
In that sense the Greeks wasted there time, on act any logical form of discourse if no one is wrong and everyone is right --- I maybe a mystic but I'm not a fruitloop
😄

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 on: January 24, 2016, 01:25:38 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by marisol
Bluedjango I believe that that you will find all of us are seekers here. But none of us walk the same path. Each path is personal, no one
reaches their destination in the same way or at the same time. What is most important to one, may not be to another. We are very
tolerant of each other in this respect. We may not agree at  times, but there is no right or wrong in our individual journeys.


Blessings

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 on: January 24, 2016, 12:13:39 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by Alchymist
bluedjango, I think you misunderstand me. The "hollow place inside" is what happens when you deny the  - pull, compulsion, call it what you will, - suppress it deep within, and follow instead the Path that brings you greater material profits, or do what others expect of you. Parental expectations, peer pressure, can be the kiss of death to one whose "true will" would be to become an artist, a musician - or a Witch.

You may not like where I'm going, but I'm simply reporting my own experiences, which have been entirely similar to those, historically, whose Paths led them to Shamanism. I'm referring to traditional, real, tribal Shamanism, not the pseudoshamanism being peddled nowadays in expensive weekend "seminars". And I can assure you I'm not ignorant of the "tenderness of love" - nor of its wildness or its ecstasy. There is compulsion in love, also; have you ever loved someone, or something, beyond all sense, beyond all reason, despite the disapproval or outright obstruction of other people? If not, you've lived a very sheltered life........

The same applies to the Path of Witchcraft. Have you ever "gazed into the Abyss, and had the Abyss gaze back into you", in the words of Nietzsche? Or passed through "Chapel Perilous", and confronted the diverse beings that lurk therein? If not, your suspicion that my Path isn't worth knowing is baseless. The same applies, also, to many of those debatable areas on the far fringes of knowledge. If, for example, you've ever had a near-death experience, the negative opinions of anyone who hasn't had the same experience are irrelevant. If you've ever witnessed a UFO, anyone who hasn't had a similar experience trying to tell you that you can't possibly have seen what you claim to have seen, because such things don't exist, is simply blowing hot air. Again, I speak from experience......

May your Path bring you joy and love, adventure and wisdom, mirth and reverence. Mine has.

Alchymist.

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 on: January 24, 2016, 06:41:44 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
In a way those that are drawn to any kind of Magic appear to have a internal compass that points to the energy of Magic and like a magnet it pulls us in the direction we need to go to get stronger . Some only feel the pull a little and some feel it much stronger . It's with one all the time we just have to want to find that source of the pull .

Thank you for your insight.  The word 'pull' was one I remember hearing in some of the sermons by the late William Marion Branham.  I suspect that most great callings are accompanied with a strong compulsion that this is good, right and positive and one aught to avoid those which generate fear in one.

So follow the Path that chooses you, through love and joy, adventure and terror, mirth and reverence. There's precious little money in it, for most of us; if money's your thing, become a bond trader or a Corporate lawyer and leave magic, art and science alone. Ignore that hollow place inside, and try to deny what you know, deep down; that that which you deny will eventually destroy you.

Blessed Be, to all who follow your own Path, wherever it may lead.

Alchymist

You see the bold (which I've done to your comment) -- I like the first one, for it's a little more balanced.  Your initial idea lacked the all important 'choice' and I would never surrender my will to anyone or anything however I might agree to choose a path which I do not feel forced, or pulled, or overwhelmed to get on. Just my thoughts on the matter.   

As to the idea of a hollow place inside, I don't agree.  We don't have a St. Augustine type reality and no hollow places to fill, which are not already full -- it's always the mystic who informs the ignorant that there is something there to be enjoyed not to let things in -- that is where the trouble begins. Once again just my 2p on this matter. 

Ta, shydark

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 on: January 24, 2016, 06:36:19 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
In a way those that are drawn to any kind of Magic appear to have a internal compass that points to the energy of Magic and like a magnet it pulls us in the direction we need to go to get stronger . Some only feel the pull a little and some feel it much stronger . It's with one all the time we just have to want to find that source of the pull .

Thank you for your insight.  The word 'pull' was one I remember hearing in some of the sermons by the late William Marion Branham.  I suspect that most great callings are accompanied with a strong compulsion that this is good, right and positive and one aught to avoid those which generate fear in one.

As you say, bdj and og, the "pull" is very real; but in my experience it was more than that. It was as if the Magical Path reached out and grabbed me almost before I knew it, and certainly before I felt "ready". It was scarcely a conscious choice, in some ways; it was simply something I had to do. I was, it seemed, dragged through a series of experiences by some unseen hand, which left me no choice but to follow the Path that I'm on.



Right off the bat, I don't like where you're going with this.  It's rooted in ignorance of the tenderness of love and I suspect whatever pulled you isn't worth knowing. 

I'll respond to the rest just now.

shydark

 26 
 on: January 23, 2016, 10:20:04 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by Alchymist
In a way those that are drawn to any kind of Magic appear to have a internal compass that points to the energy of Magic and like a magnet it pulls us in the direction we need to go to get stronger . Some only feel the pull a little and some feel it much stronger . It's with one all the time we just have to want to find that source of the pull .

Thank you for your insight.  The word 'pull' was one I remember hearing in some of the sermons by the late William Marion Branham.  I suspect that most great callings are accompanied with a strong compulsion that this is good, right and positive and one aught to avoid those which generate fear in one.

As you say, bdj and og, the "pull" is very real; but in my experience it was more than that. It was as if the Magical Path reached out and grabbed me almost before I knew it, and certainly before I felt "ready". It was scarcely a conscious choice, in some ways; it was simply something I had to do. I was, it seemed, dragged through a series of experiences by some unseen hand, which left me no choice but to follow the Path that I'm on.

It's the same with art, or indeed science or invention. All the truly great artists paint, carve, dance or write music because it is what they have to do; some inner compulsion drives them, and won't be denied. Scientists like Newton, Darwin or Einstein, inventors like Tesla, follow their respective Paths, again, because some inner compulsion drives them, to the point of singlemindedness, forgetting to eat or sleep, wild eccentricities or, in some cases, what the world calls madness. Madness it might be, but it is a divine madness, approaching a kind of satori or ecstasy.

So follow the Path that chooses you, through love and joy, adventure and terror, mirth and reverence. There's precious little money in it, for most of us; if money's your thing, become a bond trader or a Corporate lawyer and leave magic, art and science alone. Ignore that hollow place inside, and try to deny what you know, deep down; that that which you deny will eventually destroy you.

Blessed Be, to all who follow your own Path, wherever it may lead.

Alchymist

 27 
 on: January 23, 2016, 08:38:54 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
As a child, I went to the woods and fields, and they called to me.  My parents felt that this was very important, and indulged me, allowing me to explore near and far, scrabbling along creek beds, turning over stones to see what lived beneath; I grew to love my "cathedral" as I called it.  I

At about 9 or so, I became interested in the occult, and supernatural.  I began researching ghosts and psychic phenomena.  For a lot of that time, it was hard for me to get any real, credible, information.  I believed in witchcraft, but did not practice, and really, had no preconceived notions because I'd seen so much crap as well... I made the move actively, a number of years ago, when I heard an interview on Art Bells radio show, with Isaac Bonewits. 

I was fascinated by his views on life, so I began searching the internet.  I carried on a short email communication with Isaac, and he inspired me to move forward.  That's it...

I love your open hearted first stanza and it brought back some my own childhood memories untainted ones.
Smoking my first cigarette in the shallow river behind the senior boarding house.
Watching girlfiend sacrifice a pidgeon --- that was weird. She frightened the s-out of me!
We were all so crazy and passionate and feared nothing but the came the rules and the beatings but it just drove deeper into our world's of self discovery as we cut our wrists and made blood oath of eternal loyalty.
We were magical, immortal and eternal --- until we were conscripted to kill and murder our fellow human beings and something weird happened inside some of us --- we refused to kill and we chose a softer, less travelled my path and were mocked, ridiculed and some of us were beaten but we refused to retaliate and we are what Graham Nash calls us : "The Soldiers Of Peace"

I think the Reed is in some and some resist it but it's something in your core and it makes you different.

We give it names because it helps us communicate but it's not a path it's was there long before Modern Hominids roamed the lands and will be long after our species is extinct
My 2p

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 on: January 23, 2016, 08:23:20 PM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by Firesong
As a child, I went to the woods and fields, and they called to me.  My parents felt that this was very important, and indulged me, allowing me to explore near and far, scrabbling along creek beds, turning over stones to see what lived beneath; I grew to love my "cathedral" as I called it.  I

At about 9 or so, I became interested in the occult, and supernatural.  I began researching ghosts and psychic phenomena.  For a lot of that time, it was hard for me to get any real, credible, information.  I believed in witchcraft, but did not practice, and really, had no preconceived notions because I'd seen so much crap as well... I made the move actively, a number of years ago, when I heard an interview on Art Bells radio show, with Isaac Bonewits. 

I was fascinated by his views on life, so I began searching the internet.  I carried on a short email communication with Isaac, and he inspired me to move forward.  That's it... 

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 on: January 22, 2016, 05:59:34 PM 
Started by LadyOfShalott - Last post by oldghost
Lady Of Shalott . here is a book I think you would do well to read . " Hekate Liminal Rites : a study of the rituals , Magic and symbols of the torch-bearing triple Goddess of the crossroads " By Sorita D'Este.


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 on: January 22, 2016, 06:24:33 AM 
Started by LadyOfShalott - Last post by LadyOfShalott
Thank you for your insights, Ashe. Let the research begin. :)

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