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 on: August 26, 2014, 04:25:06 AM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by marisol
Skepticism is the turning of a page, seeking  the words on the next, and expecting something exciting.

 on: August 26, 2014, 04:08:44 AM 
Started by Harjilaz - Last post by marisol
Welcome Harjilaz.

 on: August 26, 2014, 04:04:32 AM 
Started by danceswithdidgeridoos - Last post by marisol
Welcome to TCC Dances.

 on: August 26, 2014, 04:00:18 AM 
Started by Arnemetia - Last post by marisol
Welcome Evy and Celestrial, enjoy TCC.

 on: August 26, 2014, 03:52:52 AM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by C_A
If you're not skeptical at first, you're doing it wrong.  It's healthier that way.

Once it starts working, you'll start seeing.  Once you start seeing, you'll start believing.  Once you start believing, it will start working.  Once it starts working, you'll start seeing.  If you can follow that, then you're doing it right.  You'll realize, one fine morning, that your skepticism is a memory.

 on: August 26, 2014, 12:43:06 AM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by Alchymist
I'm an initiated Witch, an initiated Thelemite and an initiated Rosicrucian, among other things. I'm also, probably, the world's biggest sceptic. I'm sceptical of everything; not just religion, not just mythology, but also most of history and much that is called science. And, for that matter, Witchcraft and Magic.

I'm sceptical of the "Big Bang", atomic theory, aerodynamics, Ceremonial Magic(k), the existence of Gods and Goddesses, elves and dragons (well, maybe not dragons ..... but that's another story), lake monsters, Bigfoots (or should that be Bigfeet?), Earth Energies and Faith Healing..... By "scepticism" here, I don't mean the kind of pseudoscepticism of folks like Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and James "The Amusing" Randi, who are only selectively sceptical at best, but usually sneeringly dismissive of everything that partakes of the even slightly weird - UFOs, telepathy, astrology, and of course witchcraft - yet they are in fact "True Believers" in the mechanistic-materialist paradigm that seems to be the intellectual foundation of most of modern life, except those parts where religious fundamentalists still carry weight.

I question everything and believe nothing.  The Dawkinses of this world pontificate ponderously about "the fallibility of human judgement", but what they really mean is the fallibility of other people's judgement; they seldom seem to question their own.

So, Iroriel: Drac and Peridot are quite right; scepticism is an essential tool. We each need a fully operational Baloney Detector, and all Humans come equipped with Baloney Detectors - and for a very good reason. Without one, we risk getting sucked into Reptilian Alien flying saucer belief systems, aberrations like Scientology and Mormonism, and Heaven's Gate-type death cults. As someone once said, "We need to keep our minds open - but not so open that our brains fall out."

I would say; trust your own judgement, your own information, your own intuition; but always be ready to change your ideas, when new information comes along. Don't let your own judgement harden into dogma.

May your Path bring you love, joy, wisdom and understanding,

Blessed Be everyone,


 on: August 25, 2014, 11:40:56 PM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by Peridot
I've been in the same boat, Iroriel. Heck, I'm still in that boat! What helped me was realizing that skepticism isn't a roadblock, it's a tool (Drac is completely correct). The moment we become complacent is also the moment we stop growing.

When I read books or articles, I annotate a lot. I note logical inconsistencies, compare and contrast related reading, fact check, draw little comics, and sometimes I just snark at the author. My margins are a chaos of post it's. I've found it very helpful to actually interact with the text instead of just glowering at it and thinking, "no, that's not quite working for me." If I find something I like I have a special blue color I use to make it stand out. Eventually the blue gets transcribed in another notebook. This works for me, and maybe it might help you?

Also, a wonderfully witchy friend of mine jokes and calls herself a 'science witch'. She's very logical and also a deeply spiritual person. It isn't impossible to find a balance between the two.

Best of luck, and best wishes on your journey. :)

 on: August 25, 2014, 01:19:00 PM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by Draconis Rex
I think part of your problem is that you see it as a problem. There's nothing wrong with scepticism, it makes one question. And seeing as Paganism is a seekers path then the only difficulty is to have an open mind and be prepared to accept what you find.
From what I can see, perhaps it's not so much that you are sceptical, but maybe you are finding difficulty in accepting what you discover, and what could be a new role for yourself as a seeker.

 on: August 25, 2014, 12:51:58 PM 
Started by Iroriel - Last post by Iroriel
Hi all,
  So I've been doing my best to read in my spare time and allow time for the ideas and info to percolate in my head, and it seems that I keep running into a roadblock made of my own skepticism.

  For context, I suppose I'll give a bit of an introduction. When I was younger and didn't really question things I was a.. casual, non-denominational Christian (I was really young and my family doesn't really go to church or anything but I didn't know of any other religions really). Through high school, I went through a time where I was really I guess a hardcore atheist (stuff happened and I was angry and I needed something to just blot out the religious theories I had grown up on). Near the end of that phase of atheism, it just wasn't feeling right. I've always been spiritual on some level and I feel that there is energy in the world that is not and probably cannot be explained with science and pure logic.

  Now that I'm older and I'm.. for the most part over my past anger, I've found witchcraft to be much better for-reals compared to the hollywood ver. But I feel like I'm just stuck on my skepticism from when I was an atheist and only relied on science and facts and such. Anything that ventures beyond that I try to find ways to reconcile but it's a challenge.  Really sorry for the long post but I guess I just needed to vent and find some help or advice or both. Thank you.

 on: August 24, 2014, 01:10:30 PM 
Started by An tAthair - Last post by Draconis Rex
G'nite  ;)

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