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 on: March 26, 2015, 04:33:42 PM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Imhotep
Draconis Rex,
I've never had any feelings of anger or hate when laying a curse to a person, mainly because I've never done one for myself.
As I see a hex is directed to item(s) hmm, a thought just popped into my mind, about banging ones head against a door.

I always find a curse against a person involves a lot more work as I need to make sure what is written gets the right outcome.

 42 
 on: March 26, 2015, 04:19:19 PM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Imhotep
Questa,
About what the definition is of hex or curse. Or is a protection spell a hex?
When I was a lot younger I saw the term putting a hex on a person / item as not a good thing. Similar in intent to a curse. But you can put a hex/ curse on 'person or item' and get a good outcome.
I put a hex on my car so it doesn't get broken into, the hex on my car is a good thing to me.

During my formative years I knew many people who used hexes and curses a lot, they would hex an item and curse a person. They did tell me never to tell a person a curse has been put on them. The main reason for not telling them was because causing injury to a person with magic (from any creed or culture) is a criminal offence.
To answer your question a hex and/or curse are generally not good things. But when done effectively they can give a good ending.

 43 
 on: March 26, 2015, 03:26:08 PM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Draconis Rex
What is the difference between a Hex and a Curse? I'm going to put up my perception of the difference, but I welcome any input from anyone else. The reason I say this is because they can be viewed differently by different folks. Some would say that by and large they are the same.

A Curse is the wish for something bad or some kind of misfortune to befall someone, whereas a Hex requires more time and more work to initiate. A Curse can be wished upon someone and fuelled by hatred or anger, often this is a vengeful act and in a few cases is spur of the moment. If the anger is strong enough then this can create the energy needed to cause the "desired" effect. To me, this is unfocused. A curse can also be imposed by ritual and determination, this is a more focused form.

A Hex is a more thoughtful method of retribution and very much more focused. It requires much consideration and methodology because it has a more defined and desirous outcome specific to the person. The advantage to a Hex over a Curse is, because of the time you take to set this up, it is a good time for you to cool down and decide if you really want to go through with it, i.e. hot headedness, spur of the moment, anger flare up, and so on.

If anyone has a different view please feel free to pipe in....

 44 
 on: March 26, 2015, 02:44:18 PM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Questa
As to the fire and brimstone...nah.  When I rain down the old F&B there's no mistake about it!

I can imagine! lol  Duly noted!

I also can't help but laugh as I picture the 13 year old pouty faces telling you "you're mean!"  I guess my "no hate, no negativity" sort of sounds like "white light and fairies" but it comes from being tired of, and having no use for, negative people and their drama.  I do understand, like Drac said, that you can never entirely keep negativity from your life as it doesn't always come from a source you can physically banish (people), but also situations, settings, environments etc.  I guess what I was trying to convey with my "no hex zone" is, I don't want to let something get to me to the point of me feeling the need for a hex/curse. 
**Which brings me to the question of what the definition of hex and curse is?  Is a protection spell a hex?

Regarding a coven:  I see where learning in a group environment (coven, church, temple etc.) could be advantageous to anyone setting out to learn.  There is no better teacher than experience and knowledge when it's sincere.  I'm sure many would prefer a solitary mentor if lucky enough to find one.   



     

 45 
 on: March 26, 2015, 01:48:12 PM 
Started by Ann - Last post by Ann
Welcome Ann , a warning do not jump into spell casting until you understand all aspects of what a spell can do and what can go wrong . Never , never uses a spell that was created by someone else. If someone tells you to use their spell then that person does not know what they are talking about . You can use it as a guide to making your own . Many have learned the hard way and lived to regret it and there are those who did not live . Go slow , learn much and never cast any type of magic if you are ill or can not concentrate on what you are doing 110%.

Thank you for the advice and believe me, I'm studying as much as I can before I even think about trying to cast a spell. I want to know what to use, how to use it, and the possible effects of using it before I even touch anything. As to everyone else who's posted, thank you for the warm welcomes!

 46 
 on: March 26, 2015, 01:32:25 PM 
Started by Arnemetia - Last post by Twixt
While the magical aspect is intriguing, at the moment I'm looking for a path that will let me find my spirituality again, OG. I'm still working through the hang ups of a lifetime of Christianity to be really comfortable with all that I'm learning about magic and using it. Though honestly, I might have been unconsciously stirring in good vibes with my cooking all these years, having been drawn to herb witchery and kitchen magic  :-p In general, I'm finding a lot of peace with the Wiccan path, since it has a very loose structure and allows for learning about the Lord and Lady at my own pace.

 47 
 on: March 26, 2015, 01:10:41 PM 
Started by Ann - Last post by Valerie
Hello Ann x

 48 
 on: March 26, 2015, 11:56:01 AM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by C_A
...since I don't even call myself Wiccan, as I have only been exploring Wicca for the past year and don't feel educated enough on the subject to be so bold.  I understand your fierce loyalty to your religion and the need to educate and defend, but I am feeling a bit of fire and brimstone from the pulpit in your instructions.   



I am no spring chicken and I have never watched any of those television shows or movies you mentioned, so I am not coming from that place (whatever it is).  I am old enough to know what I'm looking for inside myself.  I don't need the influence of the media.  Even so, what if a young person came exploring Wicca/witchcraft because of those shows?  Would you not welcome them and try to teach them all they need to know?  Does it matter how someone comes about their curiosity of any religion? 



You say I can't pick and choose, and I do understand your reasons for saying so, but, like Alchymist mentioned, is there any "True" religion?  The "we are right and you are wrong" thinking is what divides not brings together.  You also alluded to anyone not in a coven not knowing true Wicca.  Through my quest, I have met two solitary witches who have been so for decades and I don't think they would take kindly to anyone telling them they are not true to their Craft.  One of them was in a coven for years but left as she did not care for the changing dynamics. 

My questions come to you from a hunger for knowledge and also a high level of respect for all of you.  If I have offended anyone, I apologize.

I LOVE that opening part!  It is SO rare to find someone with that much discernment.  As to the fire and brimstone...nah.  When I rain down the old F&B there's no mistake about it!

Granted, you may not have seen them.  you mightn't even heard of them.  But others reading have and have.  "so what?", well...that's where my "99% of the 99%" comes from.  I've been treading the hallowed halls of TCC for more than a decade.  If I had a nickle for every 13 y.o. that has told me "u r s meen I h8 u" because I told them that the coven she joined believes only in white light and fairies and her 14 y.o. "High Priestess" told her that they don't believe in anything but the g-ddess, I'd have a mortgage payment.  Very few.  Very few, indeed, go on to true study.  As well, for many of them it's not only a phase but a fashion statement. Good for you that you aren't in that category.  We DO, indeed, welcome them.  If they are true in heart they are here for a long time.  Some of our finest members have years and years here...having looked around when they were 13, 14, 16 years old.  Many have come here seeking one thing and finding another...but they stick around for a long time and help others along.

"IS there any 'true' religion"?  Yes & no.  ALL religions, (Yes, ALL of them) are man made.  But ALL of them lay down tenets.  If you follow them, that's what you are.  But, the whole comparison in my previous answer applies.  You can't practice Catholicism to the letter and call yourself Wiccan...or vice-versa...well, you CAN, but you won't be.  The reason there are divides is because there will ALWAYS be divides.  It's the way human beings operate.  Same thing used to happen when the "labels" issue would pop up.  OF COURSE there are labels.  If you have to go, it's nice to know which room to go into.  If you cut yourself, it's nice to know which bottle contains antiseptic and which contains drain cleaner.  Wouldn't it be the most amazing world if there were ANYTHING that could bring us together?  SIGN ME UP!  Is it ever going to happen?  Your guess, while it is as good as mine...well...mine is NO.

Oh...boy...the dreaded coven issue!  I am, now, a solitary practitioner.  I have been initiated for more than four decades in three traditions and hold firsts in three more.  Wicca is one of the paths commonly referred to as a "mystery religion".  You can live a very fulfilling life as a solitary.  You can be about the best wiccan to ever walk the Earth.  Note, please, the case of the "w".  The mysteries, even if you were to find texts that, by some oathbreaker, make it to print or to the internet...must be experienced.  That experience is, pardon my potty mouth...DAMNED HARD to find without a Coven.  And I'm being scant in my stress on that.  Hence, that is how one becomes Wiccan...(again, the case)


 49 
 on: March 26, 2015, 08:50:30 AM 
Started by Valerie - Last post by Questa
So I am "McWiccan?"  That's funny since I don't even call myself Wiccan, as I have only been exploring Wicca for the past year and don't feel educated enough on the subject to be so bold.  I understand your fierce loyalty to your religion and the need to educate and defend, but I am feeling a bit of fire and brimstone from the pulpit in your instructions.   

I am no spring chicken and I have never watched any of those television shows or movies you mentioned, so I am not coming from that place (whatever it is).  I am old enough to know what I'm looking for inside myself.  I don't need the influence of the media.  Even so, what if a young person came exploring Wicca/witchcraft because of those shows?  Would you not welcome them and try to teach them all they need to know?  Does it matter how someone comes about their curiosity of any religion? 

You say I can't pick and choose, and I do understand your reasons for saying so, but, like Alchymist mentioned, is there any "True" religion?  The "we are right and you are wrong" thinking is what divides not brings together.  You also alluded to anyone not in a coven not knowing true Wicca.  Through my quest, I have met two solitary witches who have been so for decades and I don't think they would take kindly to anyone telling them they are not true to their Craft.  One of them was in a coven for years but left as she did not care for the changing dynamics. 

My questions come to you from a hunger for knowledge and also a high level of respect for all of you.  If I have offended anyone, I apologize.


 50 
 on: March 26, 2015, 07:52:10 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by lola.s
I have been very lucky as to see Isis twice.
Thanks for the top, I shall get googling  :-* x

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