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 on: July 24, 2016, 05:26:56 AM 
Started by bluedjango - Last post by bluedjango
Bluedjango, if you're still around, I have to say I'm not entirely ignorant of mysticism either. I've read everything from Jakob Boehme to Sri Chinmoy to Ken Wilber, and taken two years' worth of meditation courses; the course leaders got very annoyed with me for asking questions they had no adequate answers for. "You're in your analyser; it gets in the way of (capital T) Truth", I was told, repeatedly. They seemed to forget that we humans come equipped with analysers for a very good reason; another name for "analyser" would be "baloney detector". We were discouraged from using our analysers, I decided, because it would have been just too easy for us to conclude that they were peddling snake oil and, of course, stop paying them money. Others combined a touching sincerity with appalling ignorance; I've been told, with a perfectly straight face, that "all food turns into sugar in the body", that an amethyst ring someone was wearing "isn't a crystal, it's a gemstone," and that beryl isn't a proper crystal because it doesn't have pointed ends. Sitting for hours in intense meditation with these people quickly lost any allure it might once have had (there was this beautiful exotic dark haired girl - but I digress).

Thus I came to the conclusion that mysticism was a waste of my time (and, incidentally, money), and had no real-world application to practical Witchcraft. I tended to agree with Robert Graves, who in his classic "The White Goddess" (page 479) described Samadhi (eastern mysticism) as "a psychopathic condition, a spiritual orgasm .... the most refined form of solitary vice imaginable." Harsh words perhaps; but justifiable in the circumstances.

Blessed Be everyone,


Thank you for your reply, in the form on non-prescriptive self-reflection ( meditation ) I engage in Mysticism is shunned.
You may be very knowledgeable but learning to be open only works if one has ones heart firmly grounded in the reed


 on: July 23, 2016, 05:02:10 PM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by oldghost
Okay , Totem animal will be out , so will just refer to it as Spirit Animals for the sake of clarity .

Drac , most spirit guides come to one when their minds are clear and the are in a state for them to be receptive to the calling . Trying to find one works best when your not trying . Another thing , spirit guides like a mind that is in a state of dreams . For one thing it is less of a shock to appear to you in a dream , It is like breaking it's self to one gently and preparing one for their first encounter when they are awake . You may have already met but did not think of it as a guide because of it being something that is familiar to you . Could even be your carved puffin . Did you ever ask yourself why you carved that particular bird ?.

 on: July 23, 2016, 01:37:13 PM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by marisol
I got some for ya og. For as long as I can remember I have always heard an owl close by at night. My grandmother used to call me little owl. I have also always had a cat. I feel incomplete without one. Tell me about owls and cats.

 on: July 23, 2016, 01:13:21 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by marisol
You are so lucky to have woodlands to explore. Your offering may be to work with the plants and trees. Help growing things to flourish. Work in a garden, dig in the earth. Plant a tree. I love to raise plants. Even just to pull weeds is satisfying. There are many ways to make offerings.

 on: July 23, 2016, 12:37:26 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by marisol
Nymree I understand the feeling of needing to justify beliefs. But there is really no need to put yourself through a confrontation. Beliefs are based on individual experiences and entirely personal. Some people will not except any deviation from what they believe is the most excepted. You would get more from hitting your head repeatedly on a wall than from confrontation. Some just have no tolerance for those that have beliefs different than their own.

All my life I have believed in the divine, but not religion. Religion is man-made and despite what many believe not for everyone. My beliefs are varied, borrowed from many places and would probably be considered nonsense by some. I walk a path that includes the light and dark, but mostly light aspects of witchcraft and I follow many Gods and Goddesses according to need. I use aspects of Wicca, I follow the wheel of the year. Being pagan has been one of the most satisfying things I have taken to heart in my life.

Nymree you make your own path, it may not be one most traveled, but it will be yours. Fit it to your needs and make it something you are satisfied with. You are the only person that can do that.    Blessings

 on: July 23, 2016, 11:49:37 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Ashe Isadora
For the record og, Amberhawk nailed it.

I'm not challenging your knowledge about magic, mysticism, spirit guides, etc.  Only terminology, because in these discussions words are everything.  Discussions can really get in a snarl if certain words don't mean the same thing.  IMHO you redefined a few things according to your own preference earlier.  But now, people who read this thread know exactly what you mean in your posts, though "totem" will mean something different in the greater pagan community.

 on: July 23, 2016, 11:17:36 AM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by marisol
Welcome Nymree.

 on: July 23, 2016, 10:03:04 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Amberhawk
I think the point was more towards modern magic draws from earlier ideas, many based in what archaeology and anthropology finds where the more indigenous people practiced such things. A totem represented the spirit protector of the clan it represented. A personal spirit animal is what guides and protects individuals this realm and the next. That a totem animal is individual is a very, very new idea in the grand scheme of things. The idea that Shamans would call their personal spirit animals totems... very new.  It's more terminology than anything else. Having personal spirit guides and guardians is an old idea, they are just not called Totems.

Totem animal = that which represents you in the earthly realm.

Spirit animal = that which guides you in the Spirit world

Where not talking anthropology here but the workings of magic .

Individuals can have their own Totem animal , not all Totem are of things that live in the normal world and a person's Totem can be anything a rock , a building or even their imaginary friend . Individual Totems are more common than you think . That is how I am speaking of them hear .

Shamans have many Totem animals that they call on for aid and they can have  nothing to do with the tribe they belong to . After all this is Magic not science .

 on: July 23, 2016, 07:43:33 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Draconis Rex
I have still never yet met my Spirit Guide; perhaps someday, hopefully soon.

 on: July 23, 2016, 04:25:25 AM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by oldghost
Well said Ashe , while making and offering I know very few people who do it mainly on the file main Sabbat's. If you think of what you are doing as a chore then maybe you are on the wrong path ?.

If you have trouble doing things outside then just put some bread crumbs on your window sill or even a hummingbird feeder. You don't have to feed the wild animals in the woods , leave some tuna out for stray cats .Go hug a tree or you can leave a shinny stone at the base of a tree or bush . There are myriad things you can do . Tell the planet you love it , keep yourself healthy is also an offering .

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