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 on: July 23, 2016, 03:26:46 AM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by oldghost
Good for you Nymree  , you could make it a day of reaffirming your vow to your path or to which God/fees you call upon .

 on: July 23, 2016, 02:50:55 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by oldghost
Totem animal = that which represents you in the earthly realm.

Spirit animal = that which guides you in the Spirit world

Where not talking anthropology here but the workings of magic .

Individuals can have their own Totem animal , not all Totem are of things that live in the normal world and a person's Totem can be anything a rock , a building or even their imaginary friend . Individual Totems are more common than you think . That is how I am speaking of them hear .

Shamans have many Totem animals that they call on for aid and they can have  nothing to do with the tribe they belong to . After all this is Magic not science .

 on: July 22, 2016, 07:02:36 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Ashe Isadora
Hi all, I hope you're having a good day?

So this is something that has been on my mind a lot recently. Although I have a good idea why one might make offerings, I've been finding lately that doing regular formal(ish) offerings has been making what should be a sacred act feel like a chore. I try to make an offering to the God and the Goddess every week, and an offering to the spirits at the change of the month, but I feel as if this has become something empty of meaning because I've made it something I have to do, not something i genuinely want to. That's not to say I'm not grateful to my gods, or want to show my gratitude, but this way of going about it seems to have removed something sacred since it requires preparation and seems to create tension for me. At the same time, I don't want to seem disrespectful by just dropping an offering off in the woods without ritual, because I'm really unsure about what is and isn't respectful (I use this word lightly, though, because I know how vague it is and how what is good for one being may not be for another).

With this is mind, I have begun to wonder why we even make offerings in the first place, and from a pantheistic perspective, why everything that is selfless and good that we do in the world cannot be considered an offering to the One divine?

I hope to cause no offence, and ask these questions in honesty and earnest, so I hope I don't come across as rude or disrespectful. Any and all replies will be greatly appreciated!

Blessed Be :)

Update: It should be noted that by "dropping an offering off in the woods" I mean making an more informal offering in a public area - as tourists and even locals sometimes come to visit the nearby woodlands, I would be unable to stop for long or make larger offerings unless I found a secluded or quieter area to do so. While not much would change, in theory, there would be the need to consider other people using the area. Additionally, although I have a more informal relationship with deity (or have been encourage to, according to perceived messages through self-performed tarot readings) I'm unsure about informal worship and offerings as I am fairly new to my path.
As I see it, there's nothing wrong with it being a chore.  That's the point It's an OFFERING.  Much of what we do takes effort, seems mundane, or gets boring.  Chop wood, carry water is very much a part of an earth based religion.

The concern to me if that you feel your offering is pointless.  If your offering doesn't feel appropriate or rings hollow, maybe you should rethink the nature of your offering. Maybe service to the community or recycling would seem like a better choice?  Only you can answer that one.  But your choice of offering should be made on the basis of whether it would be well received by your deity rather than it feeling arduous or like a chore.  There's a good reason many pagans and pantheists consider themselves "In Her Service".

I think you should listen to your intuition that something you're doing doesn't feel "right" for your deity.

 on: July 22, 2016, 06:46:42 PM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Ashe Isadora
I'm not disputing that, Drac.  Only the terminology.  The term "totem" has a specific meaning in anthropology and to use it is this context is a misappropriation of the word.  I think "spirit animal" is probably closer to the mark here. Totems, spirit animals, familiars and the like tend to be used interchangeably in the neopagan community but they are actually quite different things.  Seems like clear terminology is really important since these symbols and spirits actually perform different functions.

Gawds I sound anal.  Sorry,

 on: July 22, 2016, 06:24:47 PM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Draconis Rex
I agree that a totem is representative usually of a group of people as you say, but I am of the belief that an individual may also be represented by a totem too. Perhaps this point of view is because I am so solitary and very much the lone wolf, both in life and in path. I was like this as a child and grew up this way.

The characteristics of the Dragon totem that OG describes represents me in every aspect. I don't believe I chose this totem, nor that it chose me; I feel I simply paired with it a very long time ago and it has fit ever since.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Crow is represented as this one I took on myself, and it's relatively new to me. I see Wisdom, cunning and an ability to see to the heart of a thing.

 on: July 22, 2016, 05:51:34 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Draconis Rex
It's sad you feel your offerings have become a chore now, as OG says though, there's no need to make a ritual of it. Carry some seeds or nuts in your pocket, and just drop some where birds or other wildlife hang. Even pouring some water at the base of a tree is an offering and they are all acceptable in the eyes of your Deity. Even a bag of Cheetos for the Crows is good....LoL

 on: July 22, 2016, 05:46:24 PM 
Started by Nymree - Last post by Draconis Rex
As rightly suggested, I have moved this thread. Feel free to carry on now  :)

 on: July 22, 2016, 05:44:09 PM 
Started by Draconis Rex - Last post by Draconis Rex
This topic has been moved to Talking Stick.

 on: July 22, 2016, 04:56:23 PM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by Ashe Isadora
Okay og.  You know how I come into your discussions and disagree, and proceed to irritate you?  Far be it from me to break a winning streak.  My understanding is a totem belongs to a tribe or a clan, not an individual.  Kind of like sports teams and schools often have a "totem" such as the UCLA Bruins or the Philadelphia Eagles.

I'm open to discussion here...

 on: July 22, 2016, 08:36:27 AM 
Started by oldghost - Last post by oldghost
Draco Fruit hi Discuss , standard Scottish brown dragon .

Dragon have long been emissaries of the God/lesses . Their moods can change just like the weather . They above all things honor truth and loyalty.They are very territorial creatures . While mainly solitary then watch over others but from afar .

What they impart to humans is a steadiness in their dealing with others. The lend strength but only as a last resort. Wisdom and understanding is part of their gift but they can get frustrated when trying to help others who will not listen or who won't try as hard to do things as they would . They value treasurer but not as jewels or gold . Knowledge is what they call wealth . Their life can be lonely and hard but they always seem to appear happy even when they are not . Friendship come hard to them but the ones they have they are very loyal to .

Aah ,must stop have to go will finish later,..

Now back to were I was (after seven hours on the road to talk with a doctorfor a whole six minutes )

Corvid , the crow traits of crows are their very cunning natural . Their are the brings of day Magics .

They impart potential on humans , alone with alertness and spiritual growth and power . Unfortunately few humans see them as nothing more than scavenger and garbage birds .In that they are wrong , Crows show people how to adapt to different situations and when things are in short supply how to use what have to it's full potential .

How these two interact can be somewhat of a challenge ,while a Dragon will honor the effort of others a Crow will take advantage of the situation to gain from it. Dragon find this dishonest .When they do get along the Crow will alert the Dragon to things it cannot see .The Crow will at times taunt the Dragon to take action . What the Dragon does for the Crow is look out for its safety and it will share what it has with the Crow .

Both impart co-operation with others along with knowledge they bring cunning to people . They teach that there is more to survival then just might and knowledge can lead one through door's that strength could not force.

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