Original sin is from the Old Testament..... Adam and Eve..... Loooooooooong before any Saints came into the picture. People learn your bible.
The doctrine of original sin is totally unacceptable to Jews (as it is to Christian sects such as Baptists and Assemblies of G-d). Jews believe that man enters the world free of sin, with a soul that is pure and innocent and untainted. While there were some Jewish teachers in Talmudic times who believed that death was a punishment brought upon mankind on account of Adam's sin, the dominant view by far was that man sins because he is not a perfect being, and not, as Christianity teaches, because he is inherently sinful.
What Firesong is saying is that even though the Old Testament was written before Augustine, the idea of original sin started with the Christians. The Jews, who complied the Torah and Pentateuch and would presumably have a better idea of what it means, do not have this concept.
Doesn't the idea of Sin originate in Genesis, (1st book of the Pentateuch) when A&E get booted out of the Garden?
Very interesting...... What it all points up to is the whole thing is man made...as is any religion now, in the past, or future. So.....why would anyone who has a mind just without any further thought just go out and join one??? I can see it if a certain belief sort of "strikes home" with someone....but still. That still leaves this blind obedience thing which some people....well....most in my opinion have this view of "My way is the right way." Yeah....right.....
They banned the Arts & Entertainment channel from the Garden of Eden?? Wow, that sucks. Don't mind me, just being a smartass.
Awww thank you, it was just right over my silly little female head.....
The justification for Paul's concept comes from there. However, the Jews who wrote the story would look at it and disagree.I'd say that Paul was struggling to find a meaning for the crucifixion and he chose to view it through the lens of the ultimate blood sacrifice. A sacrifice has to have a justification. Paul's (and Augustine's) justification was that Man's Fall from Grace required a equivalent sacrifice. They reasoned that the death of God's son was the only thing that could balance it.Thus they need the idea of Original Sin in order to help explain the Crucifixion.
Those Catholics...I tell ya. I still participate in Lent because of the Catholics I know.
Do you have a problem with "us Catholics"?There's nothing wrong with beliefs and I find it extremely rude for you to disrespect it -,-
