So, the guy I've been talking about....... I asked him how long one generally studies with the coven before offered initiation and his reply was, "Training doesn't actually begin until after initiation as one is dealing with an oath-bound tradition". Through research, I've read that, typically, oath-bound covens may not allow non-initiates to participate in coven work or discussion. I would really like to hear what C_A has to say about this. Of course I'd appreciate any input.