This is in a forum about Wicca, so I am not sure that a long debate about Christianity or Islam is appropriate here. HOWEVER, where do you get your comments on the Catholic Church from? Landover Baptists? The Cathars were about eight hundred years ago and
Joan of Arc about 1400.
I have a little bit of knowledge about Catholicism and trust me they do not "have to pray to saints". They pray to Jesus, who they believe is part of the triune God, and they seek a direct personal relationship with him. I am not a Catholic apologist, merely commenting on information that is plain wrong. Your comments are right up there with "wiccans worship Satan".
You got some issues with Serp haven't you? Pissing contest much?
Ima get the popcorn and watch the fireworks that develop if you keep baiting him.
No one ever managed to best him yet and I've seen enough of your posts to know you have neither the talent nor the knowledge base to break that record now.
As to the comments about Christians and / or Catholics not being able to talk to God, I've got to say.....
Through tradition, they generally speak through Jesus or a Saint or during mass through the priest. But there is nothing preventing them from praying to God and receiving a reply. Talking = Prayer.
I'm not Catholic and I'm no expert on the subject. Just do a google search on "can catholics speak to god" and check out the wide range of answers.
Ummm....try to avoid the ones that suggest an intamacy with him though......a "little out there"
Lapsed Catholics are fascinating to observe in the light of this topic. I have a few lapsed Catholic friends who remind me a lot of pagans in the way they approach their deity. They have moved away from the formal Church due to problems with things like refusing the Sacraments to gay people, and the non action on child abuse by the clergy. However, they still very much believe in the Trinity and take their rituals much to heart. They all still regard themselves as Catholic, just not as being aligned with Vatican protocols and edicts.
The relationship for these people was always and still is intrinsically gnostic in its nature. They held to their god when they left their Church, so it must have been, right?
The Church hierarchy most certainly seeks to distance people from their god. To be the essential intermediary. To stop them interpreting their holy texts as they will. It just doesn't always work.
Sinead O'Connor is such a person. She sees the Trinity as the one god - and the one god as the Trinity. This is very much an established Catholic Church teaching. She says that the problem with the Vatican hierarchy is that they do not have the Holy Spirit within them
She makes a good case for that too.
To say that talking to Jesus is not talking to god for these
people is akin to saying that azure is not a shade of blue. And to say they are not real
Catholics would be seen by them as an insult beyond measure. For such people it is the Church which has abandoned their god - not them.
And btw: what's wrong with "out there"??
Out there is where you see all the best stuff!
well miss nya you sure as hell must belong to a different catholic church than I've ever been too, maybe you should stop knee jerking and just shut up or admit you were wrong in your snarkassed comment.
In any event if you aren't a hereditary witch why are you commenting?
Poking sleeping dragons seems to be a favourite hobby of hers.
She'll get burnt one day for her troubles.