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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2012, 10:43:19 AM »

I haven't been ignoring this topic, I'm thinking. ::)
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2012, 11:06:09 AM »

I haven't been ignoring this topic, I'm thinking. ::)

No problem Mari, I look forward to seeing your take on this subject  ;)
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2012, 11:51:16 AM »

An just what is your think about if I may be so bold to ask :o :o .
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2012, 12:17:27 PM »

Still thinking- can't hurry thinking!
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2012, 02:36:14 PM »

Still waiting  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2012, 03:03:09 PM »

Still waiting  ::) ::) ::) ::)

LoL... Leave her alone you bully...LoL  :-p
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2012, 03:30:36 PM »

NO , she warm and cuddly, and she takes time to think  ( always a plus ) . An she doesn't mind being call a Witch  ;D .
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2012, 04:05:30 PM »

Well thanx for putting the effort in there Firesong....LoL  :D :-p :D

I thought you wanted an answer... lol.  I gave you one; no effort required... if you want to see where science and magic meet, check out the link I sent, and then read The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Kapra.

Magic is science, just as once, science was magic...
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2012, 04:15:37 PM »

I thought you wanted an answer... lol.  I gave you one; no effort required... if you want to see where science and magic meet, check out the link I sent, and then read The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Kapra.

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My mistake and my appologies Firesong, I didn't recognise that as a link until you mentioned it just now. I shall take some time out to read it over. Thanks  ;)
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2012, 04:54:42 PM »

I thought you wanted an answer... lol.  I gave you one; no effort required... if you want to see where science and magic meet, check out the link I sent, and then read The Tao of Physics, by Fritjof Kapra.

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My mistake and my appologies Firesong, I didn't recognise that as a link until you mentioned it just now. I shall take some time out to read it over. Thanks  ;)

You'll like it... it's quite possibly one of the most relevant books ever written.... the pdf is nice; an original first edition would cost you a couple of thousand dollars...
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2012, 08:52:12 PM »

Thanks for that one Firesong.
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 11:20:40 AM »

Had to catch up here. LOL

DR, I was only adding to the conversation, babe. My silly two cents worth for what it was. There was nothing wrong with what you posted prior to me posting, so it's all good. And thank you for bringing up the points lacking within the definitions I copied and pasted. Science wouldn't be science without them.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2012, 11:56:38 AM »

Had to catch up here. LOL

DR, I was only adding to the conversation, babe. My silly two cents worth for what it was. There was nothing wrong with what you posted prior to me posting, so it's all good. And thank you for bringing up the points lacking within the definitions I copied and pasted. Science wouldn't be science without them.

Ah NPM, Your two cents could never be considered silly.  :-*  But is always very welcome.  ;)

And no slur upon your copy and paste either. The slur would be on the dictionary if at all.   arf arf! :D
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2012, 12:32:00 PM »

I think what I'm trying to say is that, without the craft practised ages past, would science be what it is today? The practitioners of the craft laid the foundations for study and experimentation. The knowledge gleaned was then carried forward and as time passed it formed into branches or disciplines that eventually we now recognise today as science.

Having said all that, we still have witchcraft today, There are aspects that science simply can't explain away, or to quantify. Is it because its too "daft" to be studied fully? Why IS witchcraft still around? is it for traditionalists to practise? Of course not. Its because witchcraft still works and is still real and very much alive. It can do things that science can't. I don't know enough about the craft to be able to illustrate but I'm sure we have witches here who could explain it better than I.

OR could it be that witchcraft is physics in its basic form? The craft is the ability to manipulate the natural order of everything, ideally for beneficial reasons, whereas Physics, being the study of everything is too busy studying what it is rather than what it can do.

One thing I have neglected to mention in all this, is the religious aspect. Yes, Paganism is a religion and we worship the Divine in many aspects, and dependant on what tradition we follow we do so in our own ways. Science having advanced so far has forsaken a Divine entity in favour of tangible evidence. Do scientists not worship at the church of the laboratory however? their Athame is the laser. their burning bowl is the crucible and their candle, the bunsen burner.
Physicists are in fact searching for that single - thing? entity? - that brings everything together, therefore they are in fact, Seekers.
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Re: Witchcraft; yesterdays science?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2012, 02:03:55 PM »

Science seeks to take the wonder and mysteries away , to corrupt the pure and make life boring .
 
Like the old Witch said, " science is for those that can't handle Magic. "  always good shrooms at her place.
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