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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2012, 08:29:13 PM »

I ran into the HP at a ren faire awhile back.  She said she was no longer running it.  Personally, I didn't believe her.
1) Her not running it doesn't mean that it's not running
2) If she didn't specifically tell you that you're not welcome back then you can make an effort to try if that was a group that you wouldn't mind returning to
3) The Goddess and The God are forgiving of our mistakes - if she is still running it remind her of this (while she doesn't specifically have to be forgiving, it reflects poorly upon her if she can't)

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This is to encourage you to find your way back to a place where you found some sort of completion... I won't ask what the advice was or not. If you think it was a mistake then it probably was, but a single mistake shouldn't end anything IMO...
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2012, 10:20:42 PM »

EBS , are we not here a grove,  a Tribe of seekers , those that look belong what the mind can see into the realm of a different reality . A place beyond time , a place that we again can bring back so those that have lost the Magic can once again see the truth of what once was and will be again .
 
Harmony , beauty , where all that live can be as one. Where sacrifices are made for the good of all . A place where Magic brings wonder and the hope of the undreamed future.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2012, 07:07:35 PM »

(((EBS)))

what i can say= education is what you get when you don't get what you want.

perhaps, in the longer run, you will understand the reason for your refusal in a new perspective.  not that the old one was right or wrong, or that you were right or wrong.  that is for you to decide and i am not judging one way or another on it, as that isn't my place.

but sometimes, when we turn a corner, the experiences we have had build us to meet the new one, good, bad or indifferent.

i am glad that you had a good experience with your coven.  it could be that you just weren't ready to give over to it as yet and that someday, you will be.

if you could design a coven, even if you do not start one, what would you want to do with it, to be a part of it?
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2012, 07:11:05 PM »

gosh, i just re-read that, and it sounds like empty-handed platitudes, even tho i meant it for the best.

i just hope you do find what you are looking for and that the "kicking yourself" part is over with.  which, it sounds like it is.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2012, 09:27:45 PM »

Sounded  find to me AG.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2012, 11:40:12 PM »

I don't have any issues with the position she took.  She was right at the time and I was wrong.  Hind sight is always 20/20. 
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2012, 06:39:39 AM »

I am solitary mostly because of necessity. I'm not 'out of the broom closet' yet, so that's one reason. Also I don't think there are many covens in my area. I'm afraid to ask around because of possible prosecution by my peers (we don't live in the most modern of areas). Its hard enough for my family right now, without adding this onto it.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2012, 06:52:48 AM »

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Out of curiosity, are your parents against your religious choice? Or would they be if they knew?
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2012, 09:30:21 AM »

RainDancer , prosecution by your peers ?. where do you live if I may ask.  If you are looking for people in your area try this site .
 
      www.witchvox.com .
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »

It's ok to have walls Draco, they are a reaction to life. I think most people have them. I myself
have several or more. I also understand lonliness and sadness. Most of us feel these things. But
we are here to help, if you want.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2012, 05:42:54 PM »

It's ok to have walls Draco, they are a reaction to life. I think most people have them. I myself
have several or more. I also understand lonliness and sadness. Most of us feel these things. But
we are here to help, if you want.

Marisol, Thank you for your kind words. I can say that being allowed to be on this fora, and being able to interact with everyone here has in its own way helped me. It's been a marvelous feeling seeing my topics discussed, my posts read and sometimes quoted or agreed with. Occasionally a disagreement too which has led to discussion. I have enjoyed being here, and have learned a lot in my short time as a member. As I stated before, I had a lot of information I gleaned over the years, but a lot of it was bogus or misinterpretted. Since coming here I have been able to structure it all better than I was doing before.

The walls, those have become a part of me, I'm kind of comfortable with them being there now if you know what I mean. I've always been a loner, even in my childhood. I only ever had one friend at a time and grew up that way. I agree, walls are indeed a reaction to life, but it would be nice if there were a couple of windows and maybe a door there somewhere. The lonliness does bite sometimes I must admit, There are times I wish I had friends, to socialise a bit, or whatever.... It's not me though...LoL

It's just a shame that everyone here lives so far away, it would have been nice to be able to meet you and the others, sit down and share a drink, a laugh, a few jokes. And even put some faces to the names.

Anyhoooooo Thanx again Mari  ;) :)
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2012, 07:53:31 PM »

Draco,

I certainly understand your sentiment.  the wanting that closeness we feel on line to come together in a physical meeting.

i would extend the invitation that if anyone is in central new york, i would love to meet for a drink or coffee...

sometimes... ahhhh crap.  i don't know which words best fit.

this feels like the healthy dysfunctional family that i wish i had, growing up.  not one person in my family really understood me.  my one uncle does, at least half of me.  he saved me this past spring.  and my blood sister is beginning to understand.

but there really aren't many people who get all the stuff we talk about.  even if we do not agree.

when fp and i split, we remained friends, best friends, even though we were so angry with each other.  that's kind of how this place feels, in my head.  no matter how hard it gets at times, there will be a re-seaming, a reconnection.  even those of us who disappeared for several years.

i appreciate the different points of view. they are not toxic enough to cause harm, yet firm enough to allow us to bounce our ideals off each other and reflect back what we really feel or believe.  i don't need to sit here and really explain the feelings i had when i went through my childhood box of memories and found a drawing i made of trees and flowers with rainbows around each and every plant.  or why when i feel unsolid and unstructured, i know that there are things i can do to help resolidify.

(draco)

thanks for having the courage to speak.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2012, 04:15:50 AM »

Draco,

I certainly understand your sentiment.  the wanting that closeness we feel on line to come together in a physical meeting.

i would extend the invitation that if anyone is in central new york, i would love to meet for a drink or coffee...

sometimes... ahhhh crap.  i don't know which words best fit.

Ah! that must have sounded desperate, oops.... :-\  In fact it was a case of; it would be nice to be able to meet and shake a few hands of the people I've been "hanging" with, I've grown quite fond of some of the folks here, and that very seldom happens with me.

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this feels like the healthy dysfunctional family that i wish i had, growing up.  not one person in my family really understood me.  my one uncle does, at least half of me.  he saved me this past spring.  and my blood sister is beginning to understand.

but there really aren't many people who get all the stuff we talk about.  even if we do not agree.

when fp and i split, we remained friends, best friends, even though we were so angry with each other.  that's kind of how this place feels, in my head.  no matter how hard it gets at times, there will be a re-seaming, a reconnection.  even those of us who disappeared for several years.

Family closeness is not something I've ever really experienced, when I said I was a loner it wasn't just friends wise. I brought myself up from a very young age. My brother (adopted) is 13 years my senior moved away when I was three and I never saw him. My mother worked nights at the hospital, slept all day, so I never saw her. My dad, was there some of the time, until they both divorced, but he moved away to another place on the opposite side of the country. So no dysfunction there, in fact no function at all.  :D :D :D  I look back and kind of regret not having had a brother there to interact with, or fight with sometimes. but thats in the past now.

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i appreciate the different points of view. they are not toxic enough to cause harm, yet firm enough to allow us to bounce our ideals off each other and reflect back what we really feel or believe.  i don't need to sit here and really explain the feelings i had when i went through my childhood box of memories and found a drawing i made of trees and flowers with rainbows around each and every plant.  or why when i feel unsolid and unstructured, i know that there are things i can do to help resolidify.

Having these discussions and different points of view has really helped my own advancement, certainly opened my eyes wider. It gives an insight into other peoples views on things. It's just a shame other religions wouldn't do the same, they might get a better understanding of our Pagan beliefs.

I must say, some of the more "heated" discussions can be a little amusing, like seeing two brothers bickering  :-p  At times I even look forward to the next part of the post to see what comes next  :D

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thanks for having the courage to speak.

Not so much a problem anymore. Quite a while ago, I made a concious effort to empty the cupboard of all the skeletons, sweep out all the other debris and so on. That way they can't come back to haunt me in the future. If I don't tell somebody something, then there is a reason for it, and nothing to do with dishonesty or deception. I try not to complicate my own life anymore.

I see from your post, you've had some things you've had to deal with too, so I thank you also for lending me your ear. much appreciated  :)
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2012, 05:56:34 AM »

I think being in a coven has its upsides, such as teaching and learning from each other. But being solitary i think lets you be your own person, yet in my opinion it can be quite lonely

^^^this^^^

Covencraft has teachings that you can't find...(well, I'm sure you CAN, but it ain't EASY).  For that reason, I ALWAYS suggest a coven.
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Re: Coven or Solitary
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2012, 07:47:47 AM »

I think being in a coven has its upsides, such as teaching and learning from each other. But being solitary i think lets you be your own person, yet in my opinion it can be quite lonely

^^^this^^^

Covencraft has teachings that you can't find...(well, I'm sure you CAN, but it ain't EASY).  For that reason, I ALWAYS suggest a coven.

Thanx for the suggestion C_A, it has been an idea I toyed with. Unfortunately the decision is kind of out of my hands. From what I can find out there doesn't seem to be a Coven anywhere near me after all. There is a monthly meeting of folks from different aspects of Paganism, they meet at one of the local pubs on a monthly basis, but I believe its only as a get together. I will try to get myself to one of these and find out what I can.

Thanx again for the input.
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