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LouLouSmiles

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Re: My top three
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2012, 12:38:53 PM »

It's always confusing, too, because people often confuse their opinion with facts. So many things are written with bias, but the credibility of the writer makes a person gulp it down when it should be taken with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, an opinion is an opinion. Studying the history, however, or practices written in stone, that's different. That's fact, period. Wicca's been subject to so much scrutiny that it's the scrutiny that's prevalent, not the facts. So you really have to dig. And that's what you did. So many it's not as unusual as you think. But like you said, it took time. I'm just glad to have the sources that I have now that maybe people my age 20 years ago with an interest in this stuff didn't have.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2012, 12:53:57 PM »

Yup.... we had TV and libraries...LoL  :D But I'm not getting into that "when I was young" stuff.

I would suggest you go through the book list posted on this forum, theres a lot of informative AND historically relevent information there. I try to keep an eye on second hand bookshops too, and the like. As I stated before the folks here have years of knowledge and it is they who put together that list. There are others too of course, but to get you started check out the list. Scott Cunningham is excellent for the beginner, with a lot of how to's included.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2012, 01:28:17 PM »

It's also hard to know which sources to trust.
Trust nothing.  At least, not for giving you The Big Answers. The best sources are the ones that don't claim to answer any of your questions. Or the ones that deliberately lie to you.

In a healthy light of "doubt everything" sources that take the trouble to lie to you usually have a hidden motivation that (if it can be discerned) will leave you somewhere closer to understanding. Remember, there are no secrets that can be told. But there are mysteries that can be understood.


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Re: My top three
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2012, 03:56:54 PM »

It's also hard to know which sources to trust.
Trust nothing.  At least, not for giving you The Big Answers. The best sources are the ones that don't claim to answer any of your questions. Or the ones that deliberately lie to you.

In a healthy light of "doubt everything" sources that take the trouble to lie to you usually have a hidden motivation that (if it can be discerned) will leave you somewhere closer to understanding. Remember, there are no secrets that can be told. But there are mysteries that can be understood.


ETA; But don't tell anyone that, because it's a secret.
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THIS

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Re: My top three
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2012, 06:46:21 PM »

Take it easy LouLou, no one is being closed minded here, relax.  :)
We on this site come from different aspects of Paganism, not just Wicca. Nobody is trying to stop you from following your own path. I had a look back on this thread and I see people answering your question about what they follow, and a few have suggested, that's suggested that you try one at a time. Not because they are imposing their will upon you but because through their own years of experience or lineage or wisdom, they feel that you should perhaps concentrate and be more knowledgable about your chosen path rather than take on too much. You are at an early stage in your learning and development, and you don't want to be swamped.

Please see the intention behind their words, there is no malice intended here just a little guidance.  :)

Also please don't get all hot and bothered with folks here, I've seen some pretty nasty things going on here if the wrong person takes exception and I wouldn't want to see you getting that type of flak. Learning and gaining this knowledge is actually hard going and the folks here have worked very hard to gain their positions and experience, If you respect them for that then they will respect you too. Being a Pagan isn't an interest remember, its a way of life, a faith and a religion. Just remain calm and if you have an issue, address it calmly and with forethought, any query then will be addressed with respect and reason.

I hope this has helped to ease your mind about what have perceived here.

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Thanks Drac.  You said it better than I could have.

LouLou,  I am sorry if my comments upset you.  That was not my intention.
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Re: My top three
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2012, 07:01:36 PM »

My pleasure Arn  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2012, 10:08:24 PM »

LLS it was not my intention to upset you by not agreeing with you. My opinion was not harsh, just
my opinion. It's ok to disagree here without hurt feelings. We also correct each other as long as
its done in a respectful manner.
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Re: My top three
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2012, 08:45:42 AM »

None of you need to apologize, and I hope I didn't come off as too upset. I was going on about my right to an opinion without considering yours. But I'm learning, and I really just want to be friends with everyone here.  :) :D ;D
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2012, 08:51:38 AM »

While my intention was not to be harsh,(had it been, there would have been NO doubt about it)---(yeah, go ahead, Serp...),

 BUT...

Without getting into long strings of quotes,you yourself said that you're young.  That brings a certain "innocence" to your study.  But that's the POINT of "study"-to get from the wonderful feeling of something new,(and usually misrepresented by the authors of the books young people ordinarily choose...), to the WONDROUS feeling of finding where you actually need to be.

As has probably been said,(and if it hasn't, I'm saying it now).

A)  One at a time.  You can't keep your thoughts organized when you have a thousand or two bouncing around your cranium.  Studying for a bunch of classes, while important in this lifetime are not nearly as important as things that will help you to live your life after you complete your coursework.

B)  Remember, some of the paths you'll study are narrow.  It doesn't mean that they're being "closed minded" or "unwelcoming" or "un-inclusive" or any other "negative" issue you can name.  They just are what they are-but are not suited to a "mix-&-match" arrangement, or any more "inclusiveness" than they feel necessary.  Many paths, Wicca included, are of the mindset that if you want to be one of them, you'll do it THEIR way. 

Read our "Wiccan Books" and "Wicca Internet Resource" guides.  Learn which books are "keepers" and which are useless or worse. 
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Re: My top three
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2012, 06:07:43 PM »

I think another reason it's important to do things one at a time is because they all start to blend together. Like I've probably proven, I get little details of New Orleans Voodoo and Wicca mixed up sometimes, which precisely proves all of your points to take it one at a time. You're right, I can't fully understand if I'm not putting real, honest effort into it, individually as it deserves. And see, this is exactly why I wanted to join this forum; the loads of information offered, PLUS the honest and intelligent criticisms of some of the bologna literature that's out there will help me sooo much as compared to people trying to start with nothing.
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2012, 06:59:55 AM »

Thanks C_A you as usual explained it much better than I. I hope you LLS understand what C_A
( I just love the man) is saying. Our lives give us little time for misunderstandings. Sometmes it's important to Be Silent and Listen. Question when needed and except the answer. The answer
doesn't come sugar-coated.
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