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Title: Shadow Totems
Post by: Crescendo on September 27, 2010, 06:05:55 AM
Hey all! Anyways I decided to start a new post as I've been researching Shadow Totems recently. I used the search function and could not find anything on the forums, but what I have been able to find is that your Shadow Totem is essentially an animal that you fear, or the qualities that you fear about yourself. And once accepted, these qualities act as a new power like self enlightenment etc.

I apologize if I'm getting the idea wrong, but I just wanted to ask if any of you on the forum had any experience with Shadow Totems and if so, how'd it go? Like did you confront your fear?

The current idea I have now, based just on what I've read is that my Shadow Totem is the Spider. I've always had a fear of them, unexplainably and it was then reinforced by a traumatic event. I really just wanted to hear everybody's ideas on Shadow Totems, how they work, and how they have worked personally for them. So any advice would be greatly appreciated! :)
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on September 27, 2010, 08:04:58 PM
i think ill have to research it more, but i have an irrational fear of crows. ive never heard of shadow totems, but its intriguing.  every time i wander in the woods and find a crow i feel dark,scared and helpless. yet it does seem familiar. i also did research on this site for my elemental creatures and the crow was one of them, so i wonder whats going on?. i like this shadow totem explanation, though i wish to know more!
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: dark magus on September 27, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
Shadow Totems, Guardians of the paths of death.
I'm aware of them but never really gave them much thought
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Lenadi on September 29, 2010, 09:35:39 PM
Mmmmm, death guardians are slightly different, methinks, but I may be wrong. While my natural reaction to a fear of crows is hilarity (no offense meant in any way, shape or form), that's simply because Crows are my sacred animal and I cannot conceive of anything even remotely scary about them. But they represent many different Goddess's of death and such, so I guess....
Anyway, my shadow totem, according to Cres' explanation, would be the mighty and fearsome....crab XD (If you do not laugh, something is wrong lol)
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on September 30, 2010, 06:23:38 PM
no harm done. i think the bird is beautiful, but my fear of it is something a little un-obvious even to me.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Crescendo on October 03, 2010, 11:13:30 PM
Lenadi: That is pretty funny when you put your Shadow Totem like that!

And yeah, sorry to let the topic slow down, I've had a couple of things come up. I'm at a bit of a loss of how I'm to confront my fear though? Either way I need to give this a lot of thought and do more research, it's just intrigued me is all. Does anyone have any links or information about Shadow Totems?
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Lenadi on October 03, 2010, 11:35:13 PM
Nope. But remember that courage is not the absence of fear, but rather acting when fear holds you back
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 04, 2010, 06:41:16 AM
i think ill have to research it more, but i have an irrational fear of crows. ive never heard of shadow totems, but its intriguing.  every time i wander in the woods and find a crow i feel dark,scared and helpless. yet it does seem familiar. i also did research on this site for my elemental creatures and the crow was one of them, so i wonder whats going on?. i like this shadow totem explanation, though i wish to know more!
It could be an awareness thing. Corvids are extremely intelligent, far more intelligent than any other group of birds except Parrots. A Raven has the intelligence of a 7 year old child, can make and use tools, and figure out complex problems. Plus there's the old association with Battlefields and feeding on the dead. In all truth, they wouldn't even wait for you to be dead, just badly injured. So the Crows you see in the woods, are looking at you as moving food. Checking you out to see if you are likely to die soon, so they can feast on your eyes.
The feeling of being sized up by something intelligent, that wants to eat you, can be disconcerting. It probably goes back to when we were on the menu for so many of the animals that hunted us in the distant past. We're not used to hungry, intelligent animals looking at us as food, but we still have the "Prey" instinct inside us. This is why they make you feel strangely uncomfortable. If it was a Wolf, or a Tiger, it would be understandable. But a Bird? Never mind "Shadow Totems", just think what Birds evolved from.

Take away the feathers, and the wings, put some teeth in their mouths, instead of beaks, then think of an Ostrich, or a Cassowary sized bird, but predatory. Velociraptors! That's what happened to the surviving Dinosaurs. They grew feathers, and wings.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 05, 2010, 07:14:20 PM
yes they are intelligent, that's probably my problem, but none the less now that i expressed my fear im willing to except them as what they are to me. ive yet to find what that is though!. in one of the Asiatic countries a corvid  utilizes the roadways at an intersection to crack nuts. red light place nut, green and yellow wait for it to be crushed, next red retrieve nut. brilliant and the more advanced part is that they they learn from watching each other, or even teach each other the tricks of the trade!
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 08, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
Have a look at the European Rook. They live in colonies, all year round. (Rare for Corvids, because they're nest robbers) Sometimes they have a "Parliament", where they all sit around in an inward facing circle. With one Rook in the middle. This usually happens in the middle of a field. Hours they sit, sometimes. Sometimes, one of them will Caw, or Click, but apart from that, they are quiet. Eventually, they will either allow the Rook in the middle to leave, or suddenly all start to peck him to death. If the latter is the case, the Rook in the middle doesn't make any attempt to escape. It's my opinion that they are Trying one of their own who may have been Nest robbing. It's the only Crime in Rook society, and one that cannot be tolerated in a community.
Do you find that creepy, or encouraging?
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Lenadi on October 08, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
That is more awesome than a Psychic Octopus (his name was Paul the Octopus) 
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 09, 2010, 12:54:45 PM
more so creepy
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 09, 2010, 03:29:17 PM
Bruce Wayne adopted the Bat as his Totem because he was afraid of it. And became "The Batman".
Perhaps you could be "The Crowman".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8GOup-hZQE
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 12, 2010, 06:39:16 PM
i dont think i could, it would be ..... odd?
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 13, 2010, 05:12:38 AM
i dont think i could, it would be ..... odd?
What, and Batman isn't odd? Because he kinda is. What's wrong with odd anyway? Some of my best friends are even odder than Batman.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 15, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
odd as i dont want to dress with a  black feather boa, fake beak, jump around and call myself crowman...... although The Crow was pretty awesome! but that names taken
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: blue on October 18, 2010, 06:07:29 AM
i think ill have to research it more, but i have an irrational fear of crows. ive never heard of shadow totems, but its intriguing.  every time i wander in the woods and find a crow i feel dark,scared and helpless. yet it does seem familiar. i also did research on this site for my elemental creatures and the crow was one of them, so i wonder whats going on?. i like this shadow totem explanation, though i wish to know more!

 This is one of the better sources i've found regarding totems & shadow totems.

http://www.wildspeak.com/

 Crow is/was one of my totems so i always thought of them in favorable terms but i've talked with others that see them as being evil and manevolent.  ???

 <shrugs> Beats me ... I'm just a dumb old carpenduh ! 
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 18, 2010, 07:07:27 AM
odd as i dont want to dress with a  black feather boa, fake beak, jump around and call myself crowman...... although The Crow was pretty awesome! but that names taken
The name is Taken, but Brandon Lee left a vacancy for the job in such a way that only someone with the correct Totemic credentials could succeed him with any credibility. You could be that candidate. Just saying.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: edens garden on October 18, 2010, 11:45:37 AM
This is one of the better sources i've found regarding totems & shadow totems.

http://www.wildspeak.com/

 Crow is/was one of my totems so i always thought of them in favorable terms but i've talked with others that see them as being evil and manevolent.  ???

 <shrugs> Beats me ... I'm just a dumb old carpenduh ! 

Probably Stephen King fans...
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 19, 2010, 08:39:36 PM
hey if i could be brandon lee reincarnate..... enough said!!!!!

well ive been trying to get to a crow for they have become more numerous around here. it still upsets me when the mob birds of prey. but aside from a very very very hard to interpret or otherwise unsettling dream i think im making progress. i even tried meditation and contacting a crow by visualization.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 20, 2010, 09:23:17 AM
Crows can make good pets. I used to keep one when I was about 15. It had fallen from the nest, so I took it home and kept it. I know you're not supposed to do that, but it was all ok. The important thing is to get one that is young, but not so young that it imprints on you, and starts thinking it's a human. This one stayed around well into maturity, was tame enough to fly to me, but wild enough to survive on it's own. I never caged it, just gave it a comfy nook to stay in, in an outbuilding, and fed it. After he reached full growth, his visits were more and more infrequent, and eventually, after about 2 years,  he returned to his own people.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 20, 2010, 05:32:48 PM
i caudht a crow with a bad wing once when i was 6. my dad said he was gonna feed it peanut butter to make it better...... the peanut butter choked it and it died......i thought my dad was evil, but later on he told my the wing was basically a lost cause.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 20, 2010, 05:41:50 PM
Maybe that's part of your 'issue' with crows. You associate them with the uncomfortable feeling, (when you are 6, at any rate) that your Dad was anything other than your perfect Dad. The realisation that the world was not a perfect place, where things don't always get better. We come to terms with the facts of that pretty easily, but the things that triggered the realisation, are often left unoticed, leaving us with unresolved conflict. Just a thought, anyway.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 21, 2010, 06:32:21 PM
well i am well aware that that is a possibility. however, i think its more of i see them as the omens of death and other evil entities. ive had my share of encounters with crows but the whole peanut butter thing now to my is understandable and i abolished the thought of misunderstanding that incident so i can focus on other things. my father is my reason for fearing drunks. i feel extremely vulnerable around them. before i moved to my current location, i lived in p.a. with my mom and dad. my mom was a emotional handfull so my dad drank ...often. long story short he beat my mom and us kid were under constant threat, we moved away from him. i mean the man chased me an axe, just to prove the point that i shouldnt mow the lawn w/o shoes!!!
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on October 22, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
well i am well aware that that is a possibility. however, i think its more of i see them as the omens of death and other evil entities. ive had my share of encounters with crows but the whole peanut butter thing now to my is understandable and i abolished the thought of misunderstanding that incident so i can focus on other things. my father is my reason for fearing drunks. i feel extremely vulnerable around them. before i moved to my current location, i lived in p.a. with my mom and dad. my mom was a emotional handfull so my dad drank ...often. long story short he beat my mom and us kid were under constant threat, we moved away from him. i mean the man chased me an axe, just to prove the point that i shouldnt mow the lawn w/o shoes!!!
That's really rough mate, I mean, most human faults, we can work around, so that we can exist around each other, but nobody deserves to live with a drunk. You did well to get out of that situation. Now you can concentrate on getting your own shit together. A good way to start would be to "unlearn"  being afraid of drunks. Not everyone has the same drinking pattern as your Dad, in fact, the percentage is quite small, single figures, at least. But unless you learn not to be afraid around drunk people (or at least, not be disproportionately afraid) you'll find that bad drunks will zero in on your unease, and reinforce the fear that your Father taught you. And you owe it to yourself to let that go. Or you'll carry it around with you, and  you didn't go to all the trouble of getting away from him, just so you can carry all that shit around.


You are probably projecting a lot of the negative Dad stuff onto Crow here. After all, it has to go somewhere, and this is as good a place as any. Perhaps if you consciously project as much of it as you can, to Crow, until he is as black as he can be, Crow might take it all somewhere else for you. He loves to steal things, and as he already has a connection with you, you should try to work with it, even though you fear him. Talk to him when you see him out and about. Just nod, and say "G' Morning, Lord Crow". The more you acknowledge him, the more of your fear he will take from you. The more you familiarise your self with Crow, the less you will fear him. Downsize your fear of Crow, to a manageable, Crow sized fear. (After all, he is only a bird) Then you can ask if you can Adopt him as Totem. If he accepts you, (And I think he will) then he will always tell you things. Crow is a wise bird, and knows a lot. Crow is a strong Totem, so your relationship with him will make you strong. Study him, read his storys, learn his ways. You have already begun to do this, by asking here about him. Something in you (your fear) calls to Crow, and Crow calls back. He wants that thing. (your fear) you don't really fear Crow, you fear the part of you that calls to him. So let him have it. Make it your gift to him. Crow likes his people to give of themselves. Crow is a good Ally, for all that he feeds on dead things. Give him your dead things, (your fear) your carrion. (It is his anyway, by virtue of him being Crow)
Crow won't take your life, (he doesn't want live things, he wants dead things) Crow is Crow. Find out the nature of Crow, and Crow will impart wisdom and strength. Fear is the unknown, so know Crow, and he will
replace your fear with Crow. 


Your Dad did have a point though, (about the bare feet and the lawnmower) but he had a retarded way of making it! 
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on October 24, 2010, 05:31:18 PM
yea, but my fear of drunkards stems off more than my dad, my family lived very close together and they all drank alot, they all were violent too.

however i do like the input on the crow situation, its very eye opening. its good to have abstract ways of thinking, especially when you can use them. im gonna put that in affect.

yea DONT mow the lawn w/o shoes, it ends badly lol!
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Toby Sparkle on October 25, 2010, 11:58:27 PM
This is quite interesting, my Mothers family's spirit guardian/totem is the crow. I don't really know much about it, and she doesn't either, or not much, anyway. Her Mother knew a lot more than us, but we didn't have much contact with her, and she has passed now. My Father's family totem is the fox, and he is called "Foxy" by his friends, although his name isn't Fox. I haven't seen him for about 5 years, and he never got on with my Gan, but he might know more about it. Apparently, (according to my Gan) I have much of the Fox in me, and she seemed to think this wasn't good. But that could have been because she didn't like my Dad. I am more drawn towards Dogs and Horses anyway. I can train Dogs easily, and I have an affinity for them. I have two Lurchers called Bo, and Peep, and a Bully, called Gravel. The Lurchers are pretty stupid and are kennel dogs, but Grav is extremely intelligent, and and lives in the House. He has a (twisted) sense of humour, which is always a sign of cleverness in dogs, and he has many human characteristics. Not always good ones though.
 
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on April 04, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
I always knew crows were clever, this is really good stuff.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19042_6-terrifying-ways-crows-are-way-smarter-than-you-think.html?wa_user1=4&wa_user2=Science&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=moreon
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: crystaldawn on April 21, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
My understanding of them is as a family memeber has a dog, wolf that only he can see.  It only appears to him when he is in great conflict or stressed.  I should go back and start at the begining. 

He first would see a small white mouse.  No one else would see it, and if he followed the mouse, he would end up being out of trouble, or there was an accident where he had just been standing.  So on his own he understood the concept.  Then about the time he turned 13 he started seeing the black wolf.  Red eyes and it would be in front of his mothers bedroom door, and just staring at him or growling. 

Needless to say, this was scaring the living daylights out of him.  I did some studing on it, I think it is a spirit guide.  And it was said, it appears and you are afraid of it, it is trying to teach you something. 

In looking into it, he discovered the wolf only appeared when he was in a great deal of conflict and close to losing his temper.  Getting violent.  Usually with his mother. 

This made sense to him and he grew to knowing when the wolf appeared it was telling him to calm down.  Not let the wolves of hell lose as it where. 

I know this is going on forever, but later he had a dream where the mouse and the wolf merged, and the wolf is now grey.  Now he sees the wolf scary only when he is stressed.  Then it will stand and stare at him.  The other night he told the wolf if it was going to watch him, to come up on his bed and lay beside him.  He was afraid of saying that because when he had done it before the bed was shaken so badly it almost shook him out of it.  But this time, the bed was not shaken, just the wolf laid down and slept with him.  He says sometimes he has dream about theings that happen the next day, and the wolf is with him, Now he sometimes asks the wolf to to come into his dreams with him and watch over him. 

We are learning as we go.  We may be wrong, but it seems to work for him.  Hope this helps, and if anyone knows what is going on or what he should be doing, please let me know!
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on April 22, 2011, 01:46:07 AM
Wolves aren't really suited to being around people.
Have you ever looked deeply into the eyes of a Wolf? It's a life changing experience.
And sleeping on the bed?
Even letting a Dog up on your bed is asking for trouble. It's the last thing they do before feeling comfortable and secure enough to challenge your authority.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: crystaldawn on April 22, 2011, 08:48:03 AM
I don't know that having a dog sleep in bed with you is bad.  After all, Three Dog Night came from some where!  lol  I think having a spirit guide would be much closer to a person so sleeping on the bed with him, would seem rather anticlimatic. 

And no I have never looked a wolf in the eye, but I have looked into the eyes of a Bengal Tiger, full grown and ready to eat me.  But then that is another story. 

I really enjoyed the info about crows.  I have never been afraid of them.  But then I grew up with stories of Odin and his crow that would tell him all that it had seen and heard.  I find them fascinating and funny at times.

Thank you for sharing.   
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Curt on May 19, 2011, 03:02:34 PM
A long time ago I had a hybrid wolf as a pet. Half wolf and half german shepherd. Never had a problem with him....neither did the kids. Mind you though neighbor kids or people outside the family was a whole different thing. I'm kind of different that way...re animals. To me a bond is established in essense I guess one could say I become part of the wolf and it becomes part of me. I have done the same thing with large snakes. I once had two Boas and two pythons. The one female python I raised from a baby...when I had to sell her due to a illness I had gotten she was 14 feet long and weighed eighty pounds. Yet, she would curl up on my lap, wrap herself around my neck and shoulders and never a problem. Once while hunting I was sitting under a tree...I saw movement about 30 yards away, it was a weasel. I'll be danged if that little critter didn't work his way over to me, run up one of my legs, stared me in the face and ran down the other leg! Most amazing experience I have ever had and also the most memorable.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on May 19, 2011, 04:27:05 PM
I don't know that having a dog sleep in bed with you is bad.  After all, Three Dog Night came from some where!  lol  I think having a spirit guide would be much closer to a person so sleeping on the bed with him, would seem rather anticlimatic. 

And no I have never looked a wolf in the eye, but I have looked into the eyes of a Bengal Tiger, full grown and ready to eat me.  But then that is another story. 

I really enjoyed the info about crows.  I have never been afraid of them.  But then I grew up with stories of Odin and his crow that would tell him all that it had seen and heard.  I find them fascinating and funny at times.

Thank you for sharing.   
If your Dog is up on your bed, then it considers itself to be at least your equal in it's pack status. And it's not.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: crystaldawn on May 25, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
my dog that slept in bed with me, was a show dog.  So well trained I didn't even need to speak to her,  just signal with my hands what I wanted her to do for me.  She was very intelligent and always kept me in view and waited for my signals as to what she should do.  I do understand the pack mentality.  I was always the alpha female of the pack. 

I don't know why others have a problem with this concept, but if you don't have it settled who is in charge before the dog ever gets near you bed, then yeah, you will have problems.  But I am not that stupid.  My animals know who is in charge and always have a safe place to go where no one will bother them.  I feel sorry for those that have the problems with their animals trying to take over, and not respecting their people.

But we all have a relationship with those around us, be it animal or human, and what is in that relationship is up to the two in it.  I personally have never had that problem with an animal, and even find their presence in my bed a comfort at times. 

Over all, I think it comes down to potatoe, poetato.  it is personal preference.  Some like it other don't.  Neither way is wrong. 
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 25, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
If you want a good book to read  try Barry Holstun Lopez " Of Wolves and Man" .oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 26, 2011, 10:21:22 PM
so i realize its been a while since ive posted on this. but the crow problem i have is done. thnks to the people of this tab who guided me through it. oh and how do you catch a baby python. i found one in the woods near me....... in alabama..... its not supposed to be hear.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: dark magus on May 27, 2011, 12:02:42 AM
oh and how do you catch a baby python. i found one in the woods near me....... in alabama..... its not supposed to be hear.

You don't! Call the SPCA to deal with it. Might be someones pet that got away or it may only look like a python and is actually something that bites.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Passer Urbanus on May 27, 2011, 12:36:51 AM
You don't! Call the SPCA to deal with it. Might be someones pet that got away or it may only look like a python and is actually something that bites.

This.

It's best to call someone who is trained to handle animals safely.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 27, 2011, 09:41:07 AM
its a python. ive alot pet pthons. i was gonna call someone but i didnt know who locally to call.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 27, 2011, 12:35:24 PM
Call the herpetology department at your local university they can tell you the right , but there going to tell you the same thing as Passer did get someone who know what their doing . Just because you have had pythons before does not make you an expert ( no insult intended ) the python could be injury or sick an what you do could make it worse or even fatal . Be careful.oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 27, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
true true oldghost. im not big on snake handling. i researched the snake. turns out its a python. but im not goin near it cuz well its young and proball a release.  i live next to a university so ill try that thnx.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 27, 2011, 10:24:24 PM
Good but also check the area around where you seen it , if it young you could have a nest in the area . Just be careful as the old saying goes the life you save could be your own. oldghost p.s. if it lost there could be a reward ?.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 27, 2011, 10:28:40 PM
i hope their is no nest. alabama is not a place for a python. lol , however its been a couple days now i may have lost my helping chance
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 27, 2011, 11:22:34 PM
In all things you do just be careful . oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Nixie on May 27, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
i hope their is no nest. alabama is not a place for a python. lol , however its been a couple days now i may have lost my helping chance

Still contact the  people (not sure who though, I'd say your version of R.S.P.C.A) They can check the area that you found it and possibly look for others while they are doing it.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: shadetree on May 28, 2011, 08:20:39 AM
You found it in Alabama ? Your not close to one of the storm damaged areas are you ?
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 28, 2011, 10:21:18 AM
yes im near the devestation. im volunteering. the tornadoes hit eerywhere around us.  its pretty bad , i have water, electricty, even got to graduate. the people who lost their homes have nothin now, and their schools were destroyed so they didnt finish school.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 28, 2011, 05:26:14 PM
Sending Blessing will light candles for all there. oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 28, 2011, 05:47:05 PM
thank you oldghost.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 28, 2011, 08:09:22 PM
Anytime , that's what were here for. Those that don't help hinder. oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: shadetree on May 31, 2011, 01:28:10 AM
We also live close to one of the bad hit areas.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 31, 2011, 01:32:35 AM
Are all well shadetree , did you have any major damage . Blessing sent to you and yours. oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: shadetree on May 31, 2011, 01:59:39 AM
No , By the Lady's grace we had very minor disturbance . But friends lost from roofs to homes to everything including loved ones . We have donated much , helped where we could . My son Eagle continues to do what he can . I have had to get back to the business of farming and other family enterprises . We will see what the next round shall bring .
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Draco3Aero on May 31, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
hope everything gets better shadetree
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on May 31, 2011, 11:02:26 AM
I did my denotation through the VFW. oldghost
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: sarahbethany57 on August 29, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
this actually makes a lot of sense to me...

the bat is, or was, one of my totem animals. when i was little i used to have recurring dreams about them, like before i had ever even seen one before...the thing is, in all of my dreams the bat terrified me. In one dream a giant bat tackled me and tried to bite my face, i woke up on the floor. and then one night i woke up and felt someone watching me, so i looked up into the corner of my canopy bed to see a big bat with glowing red eyes staring down at me ( i swear i was awake) and i ran and got my mom who of course found nothing when she got to my room. it always made no sense to me that my totem animal would scare me, but the idea of a shadow totem makes sense not; especially because i looked up an article once that described the bat as a totem animal and it described a lot of things that i needed to work on in my life.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Zili on December 26, 2011, 11:00:16 PM
shadow totem is a new term for me, I suppose mine would be the spider, I just researched the spider as a totem and it fits.  I haven't until recently thought about how each decision I make effects the whole of my future.  I've tried to build the perfect life and have ignored big areas of fault creating a very imperfect life.  My fear of spiders makes a bit more sense to me now.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on December 27, 2011, 05:20:11 AM
A Totem is just a symbol of some lifestyle dynamic that has personal relevance to someone. This was a major factor in any small Tribal community. Members would identify with a certain Totemic Tribal subdivision, and thus preserve a sense of personal identity without threatening the social stability of the Tribe.


Animals were the perfect symbols for the focus of these Totemic forms, because everyone in the community would be familiar with the characteristics of the Animals involved.
But today's society has largely abandoned the paradigm of small Tribal communities, and thereby redefined the relevance of traditional Totemic identity. (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/lamborghini.gif)

The need for people to have an effective Totem, still exists in the supertribes we live in today, but it's been largely subverted by the inevitable Market forces that are the common denominator in supertribe social dynamics. (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/jaguar.gif)

Most of today's really powerful Totems are Corporately controlled. All the common forms of the Animal Totems of old are still there, but you have to pay to belong. Trademarks, Corporate Logos, or Administrative bodies have the best ones.

For instance, your supertribe of the U.S.A has, as a major Tribal Identifier, the Bald Eagle. So Eagle Totem people today are found in Administrative, Military, or Police positions, and they can demonstrate the power of their position, by displaying the appropriate Totem. The Seal of the United States Government carries the Totem of the Eagle, so anyone who is affiliated, will have a Badge of Office or Authority, that carries the sanction of the Govt, and displays their personal Totem of the Eagle. (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/DOS-1.jpg) as is appropriate to their position.

Horse Totem is another example of how Corporate exploitation has subverted the forms into a marketable commodity.  (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/ferrari.jpg)
The simple act of putting this Totem on a $5 Tee Shirt turns that $5 shirt into a $50 one. But you get to be recognised as part of a major Horse Totem sub-set.(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/MustangsLogoC1.png)


So now what began as a need for a spiritually identifying Totem, has also developed into a huge psycho-social need for secular identity, and Business being what it is, has repackaged the paradigm, protected all the symbolism with Trademark Legislature, and sells it all back to us in one form or another. Of course, people have been exploiting Totems for millennia, but now, we can easily see just how deeply embedded these symbols really are. (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/sjpgjpegwhiteonblackSW.jpg) b 
                                             (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/waffenSS.jpg)


[size=78%]The Propaganda value of symbols wasn't really understood properly until after WWII, and that's when the Corporations moved in and began to exploit the fact that our subconscious mind is far more vulnerable to suggestion through symbolism. Symbols bypass the intellectual screening process of the conscious mind like spyware getting through a firewall. (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Temple/10thumbnail.jpg)[/size]


Our real, 21st Century Totems have been hi-jacked by Corporate Shamen, then culturally re-embedded over three or four generations (With added brand loyalty) using the signal saturation format offered by (esp) Television Advertising.  So that's just about everyone's wetware mortally infected with viral marketing engrams. All because people want to have Totems. Thanks guys, I now have to work until I'm old, to pay off my subscriptions to Lamborghini and Jaguar. I'm addicted to Red Bull, and I think the Pigs are after me.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: blue on December 27, 2011, 06:29:11 AM

 If you had gone nose to nose with your shadow totem you might feel otherwise.
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: Serpentium on December 27, 2011, 06:49:36 AM
If you had gone nose to nose with your shadow totem you might feel otherwise.
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/smileys/tyra.gif)
Title: Re: Shadow Totems
Post by: oldghost on December 27, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/smileys/tyra.gif) That Se
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/smileys/tyra.gif)
 Now Serp that real scary.