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Title: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Feuer Vogel on March 29, 2011, 02:43:29 PM
I am intrested in books about Paganism that are very thought-provoking. I want to think about whatever the book has to say. I am intrested in philosophy, and am curious if there are any good books about not only the tradition of Druids, but the practices. I'm also intrested in learning more about the Asatru beliefs. Thanks!
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Snake-Man on March 29, 2011, 03:23:58 PM
I recommend "The Encyclopedia of Magic and Witchcraft" by Susan Greenwood.

And I'd avoid anything by $liver Raving Woot (Silver Ravenwolf).

And if you're interested in Druids...Isis Books has quite a nice selection. --

http://store.isisbooks.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=druid (http://store.isisbooks.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=druid)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: NyteShaed on March 29, 2011, 10:00:12 PM
I am intrested in books about Paganism that are very thought-provoking. I want to think about whatever the book has to say. I am intrested in philosophy, and am curious if there are any good books about not only the tradition of Druids, but the practices. I'm also intrested in learning more about the Asatru beliefs. Thanks!

The Druids did not write anything down, so any information on them was written down by their enemies (the Romans)  I wouldn't count on it being at all accurate.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: tomas on March 29, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
There are a number of very good websites devoted to Asatru. Google or Bing will bring up quite a few. There is also a sticky in Pagan Q & A about Asatru.

tomas

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Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Snake-Man on March 29, 2011, 10:07:53 PM
The Druids did not write anything down, so any information on them was written down by their enemies (the Romans)  I wouldn't count on it being at all accurate.

If they didn't write anything down, then they passed it on orally, and the surviving generations (descendants) who are alive now, may have written something.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: aloe on March 30, 2011, 08:05:10 AM
The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion by Sir James George Frazer, published in several volumes between 1890 and 1915.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Khara on March 30, 2011, 09:11:22 AM
Positive Magic: Occult Self-Help by Marion Weinstein - there is a revised edition available as well, I prefer the original.

Personal Magic : The Role and the True Self by Marion Weinstein

Wiccan Warrior: Walking a Spiritual Path in a Sometimes Hostile World by Kerr Cuhulain

Pagan Religions: A Manual for Diversity Training (Shamanism Paganism Druidry) by Kerr Cuhulain

My top 4 choices for anyone new to the path.

My thinking on any book on the craft is quite simple.  It never hurts anyone to read a book.  (One Mummy reference will bring down DOOM so don't go there)  You can always take wht you want from a book and put the rest back on the shelf. 

Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Hjolmaer on March 30, 2011, 09:40:32 AM
Positive Magic: Occult Self-Help by Marion Weinstein - there is a revised edition available as well, I prefer the original.

Personal Magic : The Role and the True Self by Marion Weinstein

Wiccan Warrior: Walking a Spiritual Path in a Sometimes Hostile World by Kerr Cuhulain

Pagan Religions: A Manual for Diversity Training (Shamanism Paganism Druidry) by Kerr Cuhulain

My top 4 choices for anyone new to the path.

My thinking on any book on the craft is quite simple.  It never hurts anyone to read a book.  (One Mummy reference will bring down DOOM so don't go there)  You can always take wht you want from a book and put the rest back on the shelf.

Bolded part: I can recommend this one also as an excellent read.  I'm now going to add the other three to my list o' books to get.

Italicized part: Only unless it comes shambling after you to absorb your vital essences........














sorry....couldn't help it.......
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Khara on March 30, 2011, 10:15:23 AM
Bolded part: I can recommend this one also as an excellent read.  I'm now going to add the other three to my list o' books to get.

Italicized part: Only unless it comes shambling after you to absorb your vital essences........














sorry....couldn't help it.......

My official holy title as given to me by the one true Rain God is.... The Ebola Sex Monkey of Certain Doom.....  

I might should have mentioned that before.....   :-*
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: NyteShaed on March 30, 2011, 11:47:58 AM
If they didn't write anything down, then they passed it on orally, and the surviving generations (descendants) who are alive now, may have written something.

Well, the info is from the Romans, so it may not be accurate, but according to them the Druids did not write anything down because it was forbidden.  So anything that was written down would be written by a heretic, and thus just as likely inaccurate as what was written by their enemies.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: An tAthair on March 30, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
The Demon-Haunted World
by Carl Sagan
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Snake-Man on March 30, 2011, 02:31:12 PM
Well, the info is from the Romans, so it may not be accurate, but according to them the Druids did not write anything down because it was forbidden.  So anything that was written down would be written by a heretic, and thus just as likely inaccurate as what was written by their enemies.

I see...


Also..what's up with the vegetable avatars??
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Feuer Vogel on April 01, 2011, 12:57:51 PM
I recommend Scott Cunningham's "The Truth About Witchcraft" and Amber K's "True Magick".

Your name means 'fire bird', yes?

Yes it does. :)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Ianto on May 14, 2011, 11:24:42 PM
There was nothing forbidden in terms of writing it down. Just that in an agrarian society there was no time to learn luxuries like reading and writing. so knowledge was passed in story, poem and song. In ancient myth and legend lie the secrets of the old ways. That is how you got people to remember lessons.
As for books, that always bothers me. It seems almost like a legacy from Christianity that the Pagans of today are looking for an infallible writing, a scripture almost. Forget it, go for the experiences. are you willing to trust in the Gods to give you the teachers you are ready for? They will come along and they will show you. In the meantime, if you want to know about Druidry, leave the books alone and take a walk amongst the trees. If you pay attention you will learn more about true Druidry than any book can teach you. I'm fond of telling zealous advocates of the Abrahamic religions, "If you put your Bible out in the wind and rain it will be destroyed. My Bible IS the wind and the rain."
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on May 22, 2011, 05:28:18 PM
Pagan were  here before they  came and will be here long after they are gone and the are losing ground everyday." History of Pagan Europe " Jones & Pennick .oldghost
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Raven Star on June 13, 2011, 06:51:01 AM
I liked the "Celestine Prophecy" by James Redfield..To me it shows you that everything is worth looking at in ways of symbols...The person you met on the street and don't know and says "here is a great store,you might want to try it out." Just an example,but you get what I mean..Symbols are everywhere,just need to be open to them...
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Wood Sprite on June 14, 2011, 08:08:11 AM
I'm sorry I can't offer you much in the way of Asatru, but I have a fair amount of information on Druidry and other Celtic Pagan paths. The Celts were not limited to Ireland, but lived throughout most of Europe before the Romans pushed them into the British Isles.  I do not follow New Age beliefs, though I have a great deal of respect for all faiths. Every religion has to start somewhere, so there is nothing wrong with "new". I just happen to be more of a old soul, and my strength is drawn from the old paths. They are simpler, and feel right for me.

With that said, here's a list of a few books I have found very reliable. To warn you, they may be a more academic read than some of the more popular books that are available, but they are all based on historically accurate studies. I hate wasting money on books I later discover are all show and no substance, so I'm very careful as to what i recommend to others. I hope these help.

The Druids - Ronald Hutton  (I recommend ANYTHING by Hutton)
Living With Honour - Emma Restall Orr (an academic associate of Hutton's)
The Lebor Feasa Runda (it's in English too) - Steven L. Akins
The Book of Druidry - Ross Nichols
The Lost Civilizations of the Stone Age - Richard Rudgley
The Triumph of the Moon - Ronald Hutton
The Apple Branch - Alexei Kondratiev
Anam Cara - John O'Donahue
In the House of Memory - Steve Rabey
Dictionary of Celtic Religion & Culture - Bernhard Maier
Where Science & Magic Meet - Serena Roney-Dougal
Witchdom of the True - Edred

Also, if you are interested in Druidic law, you can search The Brehon Law on Google or Bing. They are fascinatingly advanced laws that are thousands of years old. The Druids used them to settle everything from civil disputes to handing down judgements for murder. They can give you some insight into the way these ancient peoples lived their lives. To see how these laws are laid out, and to understand that the Druids had to commit these laws to memory (because they had no written language), is simply amazing. They were in no way what we think of as "primitive'.
BB  Ann
 
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on June 14, 2011, 09:58:35 AM
Dion Fortune's fiction, especially The Sea Priestess, The Winged Bull, or The Secrets of Dr Taverner.
Crowley's Moonchild,
Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco,
Prometheus Rising, by R. Anton Wilson,
Alice through the Looking Glass, Lewis Caroll,
The Secret History of Everything, Manly. P. Hall.
There's others, but my mind's gone blank now.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Firesong on June 14, 2011, 02:43:13 PM
Dion Fortune's fiction, especially The Sea Priestess, The Winged Bull, or The Secrets of Dr Taverner.
Crowley's Moonchild,
Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco,
Prometheus Rising, by R. Anton Wilson,
Alice through the Looking Glass, Lewis Caroll,
The Secret History of Everything, Manly. P. Hall.
There's others, but my mind's gone blank now.


Great list dude...

to which I'd add:
The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Kapra
God is a Verb by Rabbi David Cooper
Parallel Worlds: A Journey Through Creation, Higher Dimensions, and the Future of the Cosmos by Michio Kaku

Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on June 14, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
Herman Hesse, "Siddartha", and of course, "Steppenwolf".
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: cheese on June 23, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
The Song of the Bird by Anthony de Mello.
The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis
The People of the Lie
Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Raven Star on June 24, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
 Serpentium,did you know that Dion Fortune's book the Sea Priestess was written as study books..There is another one and I think there is one after that as well, I can't think of the name of the other one that I have right now(SR moment)..I read the Sea Priestess but didn't get the other one read,have both somewhere in my maze of books...

Another book I like is"Bringers of the Dawn" teachings from the Pleiadians,by Barbara Marciniak...
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on June 24, 2011, 10:41:56 PM
Serpentium,did you know that Dion Fortune's book the Sea Priestess was written as study books..There is another one and I think there is one after that as well, I can't think of the name of the other one that I have right now(SR moment)..I read the Sea Priestess but didn't get the other one read,have both somewhere in my maze of books...

Another book I like is"Bringers of the Dawn" teachings from the Pleiadians,by Barbara Marciniak...
Yeah, The first one was "The Winged Bull",  next, "The Goat Foot God"  then "The Sea Priestess".  (Same characters)   "Moon Magic" was published some 10 years after her death in 1946.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Raven Star on June 26, 2011, 08:12:52 PM
I knew they came in a series but didn't know those were the first two,,,hmmm have to check those out..She seems like an interesting person haven't taken the time to really look into her,but I think I will...Thank you...
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on June 28, 2011, 06:55:10 PM
" The Temple of High Witchcraft " Christophwer Penczak
" Drawing Down the Moon " Margot Adler
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 06, 2012, 05:47:25 AM
Can anyone cast any light on an author by the name of Migene Gonzalez-Wippler? I picked up this book entitled "Book of Shadows" from my local library. They are very limited in their stock, but did have this one.

I have been reading it so far, just interested to know anyone elses thoughts.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 06, 2012, 05:58:48 AM
Another book I found was "The Book of English Magic" by Phillip Carr-Gomm and Richard Heygate. It looks like the type of book that you could take some info from, but not all of it. Unless someone can tell me otherwise?

Anyone familiar with these co-authors?
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Scorched Eartha on November 06, 2012, 06:39:06 AM
You really can't go past The Kama Sutra for my money.

Do try to get the Pop-Up version...it adds another dimension to the whole experience...if you'll pardon the pun.


(http://outlandinstitute.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sutra-6.jpg)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 06, 2012, 07:54:45 AM
 ;D ;D ;D  You're a bad woman SE  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Scorched Eartha on November 06, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
Thank you. I do try.

 ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on November 06, 2012, 05:31:02 PM
Have Wipplers in a pile some where , the second one seems more like a bio-story about magic in england and those that we into it over time , ordered it from the library well yet you know more after I read it . What your question about Wippler ?. Right now don't even remember if I read it or not , depend on which pile it's in.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 06, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
I'm already part way through it mate, I just wondered if anyone else was familiar with the author, and what their take was on it.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on November 06, 2012, 09:48:24 PM
It's in the have not read pile so I can be of no help at this time.  How are you finding it ?.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 07, 2012, 01:13:09 AM
Interesting and informative. It covers a lot of aspects and explains reasoning too, A bit like Cunninghams work but different. A good read I would say.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on November 07, 2012, 08:02:53 AM
Awhile back (  a year or so ) I picked up a copy of " Celtic Lore & Spellcraft of the Dark Goddess "  just started it , so far so good. Subjects close to my heart.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Draconis Rex on November 07, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Unfortunately where I am, I'm very restricted in whats available to me. And I am p*ss poor at the mo so I can't just buy a book when I feel like it. Can't even afford a pair of supermarket jeans.

Really need to find a bloody job soon!!!
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 07, 2012, 10:04:42 AM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Scorched Eartha on November 07, 2012, 02:56:54 PM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)

Fan Boy
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 07, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)

Fan Boy
So?  :-p
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on November 07, 2012, 04:27:20 PM
SE , did you not mean Boy Fan ?.                                              :-p
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 07, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
Fruitbat.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Scorched Eartha on November 07, 2012, 04:42:50 PM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)

Fan Boy
So?  :-p

Chill yer boots Serpie.....Not sayin' it's a bad fing...just sayin' it is.

You might be a cutie pie witch magnet, but I'm not a bloody witch so yer charms don't work on me.

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 07, 2012, 04:44:41 PM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)

Fan Boy
So?  :-p

Chill yer boots Serpie.....Not sayin' it's a bad fing...just sayin' it is.

You might be a cutie pie witch magnet, but I'm not a bloody witch so yer charms don't work on me.

 :-* :-* :-*

Sorry, who are you again?  ;)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 07, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
)Ouch")
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Scorched Eartha on November 07, 2012, 04:45:35 PM
Alan Moore's "Promethea". It's available as a collected graphic novel, but you can read the first issue here.
http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z (http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php#57hev2wwd1o7z)

Fan Boy
So?  :-p

Chill yer boots Serpie.....Not sayin' it's a bad fing...just sayin' it is.

You might be a cutie pie witch magnet, but I'm not a bloody witch so yer charms don't work on me.

 :-* :-* :-*

Sorry, who are you again?  ;)

Yeah, that's the one.

 ;)
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: marisol on November 13, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
Serp you're still a cutie pie witch magnet. They are just jealous.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: marisol on November 13, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
" The Witch's Shield" by Christopher Penczak.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 13, 2012, 01:42:54 PM
Serp you're still a cutie pie witch magnet. They are just jealous.
I know. I'm wasted on them, aren't I?
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: oldghost on November 13, 2012, 03:09:27 PM
Ishi , The last Yahi . Think this book should be read by everyone .
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: LouLouSmiles on November 14, 2012, 08:00:56 AM
I got a kindle fire recently, it's the number one recommended tablet for college students, I read. As soon as I got it, I scrolled through the free books that were available for download. There are a lot of books on wicca, pagan alphabets, spellbooks, etc. And if they don't have what you're looking for, keep checking. I believe amazon does daily giveaways and sometimes the books are pagan themed. Now whether or not these books are life changing, I'm not sure, but if you're an avid reader like me and are willing to read anything (and of course if you have any sort of kindle or nook, or other reading tablet) go for it!
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Serpentium on November 14, 2012, 10:48:52 AM
I got a kindle fire recently, it's the number one recommended tablet for college students, I read. As soon as I got it, I scrolled through the free books that were available for download. There are a lot of books on wicca, pagan alphabets, spellbooks, etc. And if they don't have what you're looking for, keep checking. I believe amazon does daily giveaways and sometimes the books are pagan themed. Now whether or not these books are life changing, I'm not sure, but if you're an avid reader like me and are willing to read anything (and of course if you have any sort of kindle or nook, or other reading tablet) go for it!
Is it happy handling PDF files?
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: marisol on November 14, 2012, 12:24:14 PM
Serp you're still a cutie pie witch magnet. They are just jealous.
I know. I'm wasted on them, aren't I?

Most definately darlin.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Kuerden D˙ghlas on December 04, 2015, 03:06:49 PM
I am intrested in books about Paganism that are very thought-provoking. I want to think about whatever the book has to say. I am intrested in philosophy ... Thanks!

The Complete Art of Witchcraft by Sybil Leek. Witchcraft for Tomorrow by Doreen Valiente, and especially The Great Mother by Erich Neumann. Personally, I find the poetic thealogy in The Spiral Dance thought provoking as well. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Ashe Isadora on December 04, 2015, 06:13:11 PM
Dion Fortune's fiction, esp The Sea Priestess, The Goat Foot God, and Moon Magic.

Also, all of Andrew Lang's collections of fairy tales. The Wind in the Willows (check out The Piper At The Gates of Dawn, one the most pagan things I've ever read) by Kenneth Grahame. The Velveteen Rabbit by Margery Sharpe.

Don't overlook children's literature!  There are treasure troves of pagan stuff if you know what to look for.
Title: Re: What are some thought-provoking books?
Post by: Kuerden D˙ghlas on December 04, 2015, 07:03:28 PM
Dion Fortune's fiction, esp The Sea Priestess, The Goat Foot God, and Moon Magic.

Excellent.  8)

Don't overlook children's literature!  There are treasure troves of pagan stuff if you know what to look for.

So true. The Earthsea Cycle (6 or 7 books) by Ursula K. LeGuin, and Wise Child (http://www.amazon.com/Wise-Child-Monica-Furlong/dp/0394825985) by Monica Furlong (amazing!).