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 on: May 08, 2018, 09:31:41 AM 
Started by lucifer - Last post by Khara

She's back!

You have been warned HA HA HA!!

 on: May 07, 2018, 03:06:23 PM 
Started by sophia - Last post by Ashe Isadora
This can also be said about self-initiating , that if you follow a path that differs from all the rest and you self train to master your own way then you can be the only one to self - initiate yourself ;D ;D .
If you are the only one on that path, then what are you initiating yourself into?

 on: May 07, 2018, 03:03:26 PM 
Started by sophia - Last post by C_A
ON the "off-chance" that I just MIGHT have to say this again, (after all, if people would either READ EARLIER threads or USE THE SEARCH function, I really SHOULDN'T), YES!  You CAN "self dedicate"!!  Have at it!  Yay!  Good for you!  Well DONE!

CAN you "self initiate"?

No.  You can't. 

To "Self initiate", you'd need SOMETHING to initiate yourself INTO. 

You don't. 


 on: May 07, 2018, 02:59:44 PM 
Started by sophia - Last post by Ashe Isadora
You can absolutely dedicate yourself to your path and to the god(s).  That is a contract between you and the Powers That Be.  That said, you can't initiate yourself.  Initiation is an introduction to the Mysteries done is a specific way, usually involving a challenge that the initiate must meet or overcome. This must be performed by someone who has her/himself already been initiated, and knows how to perform it for that tradition. "Self initiation" is a conflict in terms.  I'm not placing a value judgment here, dedication and initiation are just different processes that achieve different spiritual goals.  I'd point out that later editions of Scott Cunningham's book for Solitaries  were changed by the publisher to say "self dedication" rather than self initiation. 
To complicate things, I personally believe that the gods themselves will occasionally initiate someone.  But that's unverifiable, and it's only valid to that individual.  It's what we call an Unverifiable Personal Gnosis, and one cannot reasonably expect that others will accept it. 
This controversy has been raging for years.  If you DO decide to do a self initiation, think of it as a personal achievement and don't take offense if many in the Wiccan community don't see it as valid.

 on: May 07, 2018, 02:42:44 PM 
Started by Síochána - Last post by Ashe Isadora
Good to see everyone!

 on: May 07, 2018, 09:20:58 AM 
Started by Síochána - Last post by Draconis Rex
Hiya Drac

Hi Arn, Good to see you again  ;)

 on: May 07, 2018, 06:19:30 AM 
Started by lucifer - Last post by oldghost
That's good . Nice to see those still stand strong on their path .

 on: May 06, 2018, 07:30:36 PM 
Started by lucifer - Last post by illia
Hello again and yep! Still in Oregon. Going strong and still practicing  good ole  paganism

 on: May 06, 2018, 06:14:55 PM 
Started by lucifer - Last post by oldghost
Good to see your re rerturn  ;D . Still down in Oregon ?. Hope you have beeen well and are still going strong ?

 on: May 06, 2018, 02:40:02 PM 
Started by lucifer - Last post by illia
Been many, many moons  since I was last here!! The "seasoned" members may or may not remember me as the crafty, "mouthy" Frau.... lol! See lots of names I remember! About me- fluent in sarcasm, still crafty, still undefined solitary pagan-just years and years older! Glad to see so many parts of TCC that I loved so much! TI- spent lots of time there and the Kiva!!

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